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I had the idea for this when seeing the following website: http://www.debbiespenditnow.com/ http://www.debbiespenditnow.com/ which heavily uses jQuery for bla

by GuiA 15y ago

I had the idea for this when seeing the following website: http://www.debbiespenditnow.com/ http://www.debbiespenditnow.com/ which heavily uses jQuery for blatant racism. As an open source developer, I want a way to prevent people or companies to use my work for such things. It also reminds me of Gnutella's license, which is modified version of the GPL made to prevent military use. It might be a bit idealistic, but it's better than nothing. I am also not a lawyer, so feel free to comment/fork the gist.

duncan_bayne 15y ago
Well done for seeing a problem and trying to fix it. But ... Could I use an NHPL-licenced editor to criticise the Church of Scientology? Could I use an NHPL-licenced bulletin board system to post content critical of the Westboro Baptists or Wahhabi Islam? Could I use an NHPL-licenced chat program to criticise National Front neo-NAZIs?
- spindritf 15y ago
  Those are some extreme examples, what about just making fun of dumb people (think http://failblog.org/ http://failblog.org/ on steroids)?
- GuiA 15y ago
  These are some interesting examples. In all of them, we are talking about disparaging intellectual positions, which I don't think belong to the same set of characteristics like the ones mentioned in the text (race, disability, gender, etc.) and therefore would be acceptable. Maybe adding a recursion clause? "This software can be used to disparage or discriminate on characteristics which inherently disparage or discriminate characteristics such as gender, disability, [...], etc." ;)
  - duncan_bayne 15y ago
    Don't forget religion: that's an intellectual position that is (in most countries) freely chosen.
wmf 15y ago
Are you aware of the discussions about this topic from ~15 years ago? A lot of people disagree about the definition of hate speech, making interpretation of such licenses pretty subjective. It also opens the door to additional causes like "no nuclear weapons development" and such.
- GuiA 15y ago
  Nope, I'm not aware of past discussions on this. Do you have any pointers/links? I'd love to read about it :) The definition I used is taken straight from Wikipedia's page on hate speech, and I feel like it's pretty straightforward. As to how it opens the door to causes like "no nuclear weapons", I feel like it's a different issue altogether. Sure, it could be lumped in there, but I think hate speech and use for military purposes are 2 somewhat distinct things.
TheAmazingIdiot 15y ago
I'm trying to parse that abomination of a website. I'm not sure if it's an "anti-Obama", anti-Chinese, anti-Democrat, or what it is. But yeah, the racism posited is reminiscent of the "Japs" shown in movie shorts of the 1940's. I guess it's a form of NIMBY; They aren't from my backyard.

by GuiA 15y ago

duncan_bayne 15y ago

Well done for seeing a problem and trying to fix it. But ... Could I use an NHPL-licenced editor to criticise the Church of Scientology? Could I use an NHPL-licenced bulletin board system to post content critical of the Westboro Baptists or Wahhabi Islam? Could I use an NHPL-licenced chat program to criticise National Front neo-NAZIs?

spindritf 15y ago
Those are some extreme examples, what about just making fun of dumb people (think http://failblog.org/ http://failblog.org/ on steroids)?
GuiA 15y ago
These are some interesting examples. In all of them, we are talking about disparaging intellectual positions, which I don't think belong to the same set of characteristics like the ones mentioned in the text (race, disability, gender, etc.) and therefore would be acceptable. Maybe adding a recursion clause? "This software can be used to disparage or discriminate on characteristics which inherently disparage or discriminate characteristics such as gender, disability, [...], etc." ;)
- duncan_bayne 15y ago
  Don't forget religion: that's an intellectual position that is (in most countries) freely chosen.

wmf 15y ago

Are you aware of the discussions about this topic from ~15 years ago? A lot of people disagree about the definition of hate speech, making interpretation of such licenses pretty subjective. It also opens the door to additional causes like "no nuclear weapons development" and such.

GuiA 15y ago
Nope, I'm not aware of past discussions on this. Do you have any pointers/links? I'd love to read about it :) The definition I used is taken straight from Wikipedia's page on hate speech, and I feel like it's pretty straightforward. As to how it opens the door to causes like "no nuclear weapons", I feel like it's a different issue altogether. Sure, it could be lumped in there, but I think hate speech and use for military purposes are 2 somewhat distinct things.

TheAmazingIdiot 15y ago

I'm trying to parse that abomination of a website. I'm not sure if it's an "anti-Obama", anti-Chinese, anti-Democrat, or what it is. But yeah, the racism posited is reminiscent of the "Japs" shown in movie shorts of the 1940's. I guess it's a form of NIMBY; They aren't from my backyard.