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>I suspect that to a large extent, arguing Twitter vs. Mastodon is only a proxy for arguing for or against the new owner of Twitter I'm perfectly capable of ha

by Hamuko 4y ago

>I suspect that to a large extent, arguing Twitter vs. Mastodon is only a proxy for arguing for or against the new owner of Twitter I'm perfectly capable of hating Elon Musk and Mastodon at the same time.

lapcat 4y ago
> I'm perfectly capable of hating Elon Musk and Mastodon at the same time. That's fine. So, don't use Twitter or Mastodon, and don't argue Twitter vs. Mastodon?
- Hamuko 4y ago
  Why am I not allowed to argue about those things?
  - lapcat 4y ago
    What do you want to argue about exactly? You didn't even explain why you hate Musk or Mastodon.
    - Hamuko 4y ago
      It wasn't about why I hate Musk or Mastodon. Your claim was that if you argue against Mastodon, you're actually just a Musk lover, or if you argue for Mastodon, you just do it because you hate Musk. I can dislike Musk and think that he's making Twitter worse, and still think that Mastodon is a shitty social network. Those things are not related. But if I dislike both, I'm supposed to not "argue Twitter vs. Mastodon"? It doesn't make any sense.
      - lapcat 4y ago
        > Your claim was that if you argue against Mastodon, you're actually just a Musk lover, or if you argue for Mastodon, you just do it because you hate Musk. No, my claim was specifically about "arguing Twitter vs. Mastodon". > Those things are not related. Exactly! That's my point. They are entirely separate issues that are too often conflated. > But if I dislike both, I'm supposed to not "argue Twitter vs. Mastodon"? It doesn't make any sense. If you dislike both, then it doesn't make any sense to argue Twitter vs. Mastodon. It's a false dichotomy.
        Hamuko 4y ago
        >They are entirely separate issues that are too often conflated. You're the one that is conflating them. >If you dislike both, then it doesn't make any sense to argue Twitter vs. Mastodon. It's a false dichotomy. How?
        yborg 4y ago
        >It's just an excuse for people to argue Q.E.D.

by Hamuko 4y ago

lapcat 4y ago

> I'm perfectly capable of hating Elon Musk and Mastodon at the same time. That's fine. So, don't use Twitter or Mastodon, and don't argue Twitter vs. Mastodon?

Hamuko 4y ago
Why am I not allowed to argue about those things?
- lapcat 4y ago
  What do you want to argue about exactly? You didn't even explain why you hate Musk or Mastodon.
  - Hamuko 4y ago
    It wasn't about why I hate Musk or Mastodon. Your claim was that if you argue against Mastodon, you're actually just a Musk lover, or if you argue for Mastodon, you just do it because you hate Musk. I can dislike Musk and think that he's making Twitter worse, and still think that Mastodon is a shitty social network. Those things are not related. But if I dislike both, I'm supposed to not "argue Twitter vs. Mastodon"? It doesn't make any sense.
    - lapcat 4y ago
      > Your claim was that if you argue against Mastodon, you're actually just a Musk lover, or if you argue for Mastodon, you just do it because you hate Musk. No, my claim was specifically about "arguing Twitter vs. Mastodon". > Those things are not related. Exactly! That's my point. They are entirely separate issues that are too often conflated. > But if I dislike both, I'm supposed to not "argue Twitter vs. Mastodon"? It doesn't make any sense. If you dislike both, then it doesn't make any sense to argue Twitter vs. Mastodon. It's a false dichotomy.
      - Hamuko 4y ago
        >They are entirely separate issues that are too often conflated. You're the one that is conflating them. >If you dislike both, then it doesn't make any sense to argue Twitter vs. Mastodon. It's a false dichotomy. How?
        yborg 4y ago
        >It's just an excuse for people to argue Q.E.D.