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> Most of what we hear of the Fediverse is rants about twitter and a few of the same subcultures over and over again. I feel like this isn't true anymore. Ther

by nstart 3y ago

> Most of what we hear of the Fediverse is rants about twitter and a few of the same subcultures over and over again. I feel like this isn't true anymore. There's definitely a lot of chatter about Twitter of course and even more so now that there's regular Twitter related drama happening. But I have 7 federated instances on speed dial that range from general purpose, to infosec, to art, and to game development. They all talk about a lot of stuff, not just the things related purely to the server theme. I checked all of their local timelines just now and found only one post talking about Twitter and it was just a link to a news item where Elon talks about government access to Twitter. Notably absent were any growth hack posts. Everything was just stream of consciousness stuff.

rapnie 3y ago
A lot of the rants came from frustrated people migrating away from Twitter by the shenanigans of Musk. There has been a bit of a culture change due to the large influx. But now that these people get to be comfortable in their new 'home', these discussion also become less frequent. Of course it is also who you follow that determines how you are exposed to these rants. If you are in a Twitter exodus group there'll be plenty more ranting.
HopenHeyHi 3y ago
> the same subcultures over and over again How many XX-chromosome neurotypical a-political undyed-hair normies are on your 7 federated instances? Please, count. People can be miffed at me for pointing this truth out but that is how social networks grow big. Such is life. The Rihanna/Swift/Kardashian/BlackPink people will never switch and as they will correctly inform you, they run the world. It is called social media, remember? Social people will stay on Instagram and Twitter as that is where you get attention. AI researchers are all on Twitter too for that matter. The gravitational pull is too strong. Edit: Hmm, I wonder who is downvoting this obvious mathematical fact of life, such a mystery!
- dang 3y ago
  If you keep posting flamebait to HN we are going to have to ban you. We've warned you about this at least once already! https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - HopenHeyHi 3y ago
    The subject is growth hacking and social networks. Social networks grow big by targeting young female users as a vector for growth. Well documented countless times and talked about at length by the people who work there, this is one of the very key original "growth hacks" and not some sort of secret. Rihanna posts baby pictures on twitter that get more views and engagement than all of the fediverse combined. This captures the key demographic. You're welcome to publicly explain how the statement that you need buy in from content producers in the vain of Rihanna/Swift/Kardashians/BlackPink to capture the young female crowd, which brings in the young male crowd, which drives enough critical mass to bring in everybody else, an outright mathematical fact (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalfe's_law) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalfe's_law), as some sort of flame bait. I am familiar with your link. What guideline specifically am I violating here in this thread please Dang? Thanks in advance.
    - dang 3y ago
      You violated the site guidelines against flamebait, name-calling, and snark, for starters. Also the one that asks you not to go on about downvotes. And no doubt others as well. This is not that hard.
      - HopenHeyHi 3y ago
        What guideline specifically am I violating here in this thread and how exactly? > And no doubt others as well. I think you should do some soul searching. > This is not that hard. Pretty hard without specific examples from this thread. Which you have not provided. Nobody will see this behavior deep in a days old thread. It is very clear that you are not acting impartially. I know it and you know it.
stephen_g 3y ago
Yeah, I think over the last few months the number of posts about Twitter (from the people I follow at least) have dropped to about 10-20% of what they were.
- InCityDreams 3y ago
  10-20% less of previously how many?
  - tedivm 3y ago
    Honestly as a pretty heavy fediverse user who ditched twitter, I see maybe two or three posts a week about twitter. Most people have other things to talk about. The exception is when twitter does something exceptionally stupid or controversial, but even then I don't think twitter ends up overwhelming my feed or anything.

by nstart 3y ago

rapnie 3y ago

A lot of the rants came from frustrated people migrating away from Twitter by the shenanigans of Musk. There has been a bit of a culture change due to the large influx. But now that these people get to be comfortable in their new 'home', these discussion also become less frequent. Of course it is also who you follow that determines how you are exposed to these rants. If you are in a Twitter exodus group there'll be plenty more ranting.

HopenHeyHi 3y ago

> the same subcultures over and over again How many XX-chromosome neurotypical a-political undyed-hair normies are on your 7 federated instances? Please, count. People can be miffed at me for pointing this truth out but that is how social networks grow big. Such is life. The Rihanna/Swift/Kardashian/BlackPink people will never switch and as they will correctly inform you, they run the world. It is called social media, remember? Social people will stay on Instagram and Twitter as that is where you get attention. AI researchers are all on Twitter too for that matter. The gravitational pull is too strong. Edit: Hmm, I wonder who is downvoting this obvious mathematical fact of life, such a mystery!

dang 3y ago
If you keep posting flamebait to HN we are going to have to ban you. We've warned you about this at least once already! https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- HopenHeyHi 3y ago
  The subject is growth hacking and social networks. Social networks grow big by targeting young female users as a vector for growth. Well documented countless times and talked about at length by the people who work there, this is one of the very key original "growth hacks" and not some sort of secret. Rihanna posts baby pictures on twitter that get more views and engagement than all of the fediverse combined. This captures the key demographic. You're welcome to publicly explain how the statement that you need buy in from content producers in the vain of Rihanna/Swift/Kardashians/BlackPink to capture the young female crowd, which brings in the young male crowd, which drives enough critical mass to bring in everybody else, an outright mathematical fact (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalfe's_law) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalfe's_law), as some sort of flame bait. I am familiar with your link. What guideline specifically am I violating here in this thread please Dang? Thanks in advance.
  - dang 3y ago
    You violated the site guidelines against flamebait, name-calling, and snark, for starters. Also the one that asks you not to go on about downvotes. And no doubt others as well. This is not that hard.
    - HopenHeyHi 3y ago
      What guideline specifically am I violating here in this thread and how exactly? > And no doubt others as well. I think you should do some soul searching. > This is not that hard. Pretty hard without specific examples from this thread. Which you have not provided. Nobody will see this behavior deep in a days old thread. It is very clear that you are not acting impartially. I know it and you know it.

stephen_g 3y ago

Yeah, I think over the last few months the number of posts about Twitter (from the people I follow at least) have dropped to about 10-20% of what they were.

InCityDreams 3y ago
10-20% less of previously how many?
- tedivm 3y ago
  Honestly as a pretty heavy fediverse user who ditched twitter, I see maybe two or three posts a week about twitter. Most people have other things to talk about. The exception is when twitter does something exceptionally stupid or controversial, but even then I don't think twitter ends up overwhelming my feed or anything.