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Its like people are willfully ignoring the obvious: Black and Hispanic kids do the worst in math. Understanding why and correcting for the problems is a comple
by testfoobar 3y ago
Its like people are willfully ignoring the obvious: Black and Hispanic kids do the worst in math. Understanding why and correcting for the problems is a complex task. Making big proclamations about equity isn't going to do it.
Family life matters to the growth and development of children. 64% of Black children live in single parent homes vs. 16% of Asian kids. How does this effect math results? Black children are more likely to live near highways with higher rates of air pollution and asthma. Do Black children sleep poorly and have poorer memory formation?
Black and hispanic children who are more like to be poor may have chronic background stress from poverty: food and shelter insecurity. They may have inadequate access to health care. They miss routine screenings for vision, hearing and dyslexia. Chronic absenteeism and tardiness abounds. Are these the problems?
Identifying and correcting the root cause of divergent math outcomes is likely to be a multi-faceted and complex endeavor involving families, finances and health. It is worth doing. Everyone deserves the best possible education outcome.
Unfortunately, with scant evidence, math educators have somehow convinced themselves the root cause of the problem is entirely the math curriculum and the equitable solution is to deprive advanced kids of opportunity. Madness.
- istinetz 3y ago[flagged]
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- bb010g 3y agoFalse & racist. Please see https://youtu.be/UBc7qBS1Ujo https://youtu.be/UBc7qBS1Ujo for an extended explanation of why this is a horrible position. We don't even have strong scientific evidence that Spearman's g factor is more than a statistical convenience.
- replygirl 3y agoCan you summarize this three-hour video?
- foldr 3y agoNot the OP, but it's a debunking of a fairly long book (and associated claims by one of its authors), so probably not. While threads like this reliably attract HN's substantial contingent of so-called 'race realists', the consensus among experts is that Murray is wrong. Therefore I really think we should be putting the burden of proof on people who think this consensus is false. Murray's claims should be evaluated independently of his personal flaws, but you can also get some idea of where he's really coming from by checking out his Twitter feed. As a commenter on the video perspicuously puts it: > The best argument against people who claim that the Bell Curve isn't racist is the fact that Murray isn't some incorporeal being who manifested out of thin air, wrote the book, and returned to the ether. He's a real person with a Twitter account, and oh boy.
- userbinator 3y agoamong experts ...and the policies that lead to the situation in the article were also developed by "experts". The amount of political ideology surrounding this stuff is immense. The truth is black and white (pun intended) but people don't want to see.
- foldr 3y agoSo, a few comments down from a substantive comment by testfoobar, we've arrived at the inevitable comment saying almost explicitly that black people are dumb. If you want to just say this out loud, there are corners of the internet where you can do it. Hopefully this is not one of them.
- userbinator 3y agoIn other words, don't question the ideology...