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While I love aviation and I love our ATC’s, I can’t help but think that it’s an antiquated system desperate for disruption. Growth of air travel is outweighing

While I love aviation and I love our ATC’s, I can’t help but think that it’s an antiquated system desperate for disruption. Growth of air travel is outweighing growth in staffing for the FAA. We need a new system. Maybe automate parts of flight that are the routine parts (cruise handoffs, etc) and have staff for the complex bits (takeoff/approach/landing/taxi).

chaostheory 4y ago
It will be inevitability disrupted due to the age demographic bomb. Too few people are being born, and retirees are beginning to outnumber working adults. we will either be constantly short of staff in multiple industries or we will start augmenting staff shortages with AI and eventually full replacement
- themitigating 4y ago
  That's why immigration is so important
  - justrealist 4y ago
    The third world is not an infinite factory of human flesh to patch societal issues that the developed world can't be bothered to address. Birthrates in the developing world are mostly at or below replacement already.
    - themitigating 4y ago
      Yes it is actually and birthrates in third world countries are much higher
      - shjake 4y ago
        Only the case in parts of Subsaharan Africa at this point. India for instance is at around 2.0 and many Latin American countries at a similar level as the US.
    - chaostheory 4y ago
      That doesn’t mean themitigating isn’t right. He is. The issue is that immigration isn’t a permanent solution since only central Africa isn’t suffering from the male fertility problem. Still, immigration is a needed tool to buy us time to find a solution. Right now, AI is the top contender regardless of how people feel about it
      - justrealist 4y ago
        Male fertility is a problem, but it's not the driver of the birthrate drop in the developed world.
        chaostheory 4y ago
        It is the main driver of the birth rate drop. The studies accounted for socioeconomic changes.
    - themitigating 4y ago
      I was wrong. I didn't realize, nor would I ever think, the birthrate would go down in other countries. I checked Mexico and it's near the US. My point still stands, it's a source of new people. Like the irish and now latin Americans they fill am important role.
Sargos 4y ago
ATCs are a government entity so innovation and disruption are not realistic options. Change in bureaucracies generally comes from operational failure or systemic breakdown which leads to a full replacement with a better system. This article is describing operational failure which is encouraging but unfortunately instead of upgrades the chosen solution is limiting functionality until the world routes around the damage. There's still hope that AI can help somehow in the future but it's slim at best and we're likely going to need an alternative less regulated transportation system like point to point transportation via airborne drones.
- gabereiser 4y ago
  I know, I'm just calling out the obvious. Government will not jump at an opportunity to improve but rather an opportunity to, well, govern...

chaostheory 4y ago

It will be inevitability disrupted due to the age demographic bomb. Too few people are being born, and retirees are beginning to outnumber working adults. we will either be constantly short of staff in multiple industries or we will start augmenting staff shortages with AI and eventually full replacement

themitigating 4y ago
That's why immigration is so important
- justrealist 4y ago
  The third world is not an infinite factory of human flesh to patch societal issues that the developed world can't be bothered to address. Birthrates in the developing world are mostly at or below replacement already.
  - themitigating 4y ago
    Yes it is actually and birthrates in third world countries are much higher
    - shjake 4y ago
      Only the case in parts of Subsaharan Africa at this point. India for instance is at around 2.0 and many Latin American countries at a similar level as the US.
  - chaostheory 4y ago
    That doesn’t mean themitigating isn’t right. He is. The issue is that immigration isn’t a permanent solution since only central Africa isn’t suffering from the male fertility problem. Still, immigration is a needed tool to buy us time to find a solution. Right now, AI is the top contender regardless of how people feel about it
    - justrealist 4y ago
      Male fertility is a problem, but it's not the driver of the birthrate drop in the developed world.
      - chaostheory 4y ago
        It is the main driver of the birth rate drop. The studies accounted for socioeconomic changes.
  - themitigating 4y ago
    I was wrong. I didn't realize, nor would I ever think, the birthrate would go down in other countries. I checked Mexico and it's near the US. My point still stands, it's a source of new people. Like the irish and now latin Americans they fill am important role.

Sargos 4y ago

ATCs are a government entity so innovation and disruption are not realistic options. Change in bureaucracies generally comes from operational failure or systemic breakdown which leads to a full replacement with a better system. This article is describing operational failure which is encouraging but unfortunately instead of upgrades the chosen solution is limiting functionality until the world routes around the damage. There's still hope that AI can help somehow in the future but it's slim at best and we're likely going to need an alternative less regulated transportation system like point to point transportation via airborne drones.

gabereiser 4y ago
I know, I'm just calling out the obvious. Government will not jump at an opportunity to improve but rather an opportunity to, well, govern...