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It sounds like they tried to set up a large one-size-fits-all program. This might be a good time to bring up Lockhart's Lament, which imagines what artistic ed
by tiedieconderoga 4y ago
It sounds like they tried to set up a large one-size-fits-all program.
This might be a good time to bring up Lockhart's Lament, which imagines what artistic education would look like if we treated it like math.
https://archive.org/details/AMathematiciansLament https://archive.org/details/AMathematiciansLament
Nobody with decision-making power in a school district likes the answer which this paper proposes: very small class sizes.
- boringuser2 4y agoThat answer has also been tried and doesn't work. Let me ask this: what problem are you trying to solve?
- PuppyTailWags 4y agoInquiry: small class sizes doesn't work? Could you show me sources/papers/studies/etc? It's is unintuitive, so I'd like to be educated on the factors at play here.
- jbellis 4y agoI could easily believe the constraint being the tiny number of k-12 teachers who themselves understand math well enough to teach it like this, no matter how small you'd like to make classes.
- alex_sf 4y agoThat seems likely. Small groups allow for lots of questions and deeper explanations, which plenty of teachers can't provide.
- zone411 4y agohttps://hechingerreport.org/despite-popularity-with-parents-and-teachers-review-of-research-finds-small-benefits-to-small-classes/ https://hechingerreport.org/despite-popularity-with-parents-...
- klipt 4y ago> what problem are you trying to solve? That sounds like a math question! Get 'im, boys!
- KiranRao0 4y agoI would expect small class sizes to be considerably more expensive.
- tiedieconderoga 4y agoYeah, that's why people don't like it. The essay's thesis is that math is an unusually useful art form that we typically teach by diktat. Students are asked to memorize formulas, but they would learn more effectively (and have more fun) if teachers could work closely with them to derive and understand the solutions. Or better yet, encourage and guide them to find their own interesting formulas and patterns.
- teaearlgraycold 4y agoWe should teach engineering classes and students would learn math to solve engineering problems. That solves the “when are we going to use this?” problem.
- WillAdams 4y agoI've been learning a lot about geometry to apply to using my CNC: https://willadams.gitbook.io/design-into-3d/2d-drawing#geometry https://willadams.gitbook.io/design-into-3d/2d-drawing#geome... I would highly recommend anyone w/ a child taking geometry to get a 3D printer and: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58059196-make https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58059196-make (I am currently working through the matching book on Calculus)
- NoMoreNicksLeft 4y agoHow much do school districts in California spend (as a percentage of total budget) on staffers who do not teach children directly? If it is (for the sake of argument) a quarter of the budget, then I ask would 33% more funding be able to shrink class sizes to a degree that would meet your approval? If instead it were half the budget, would a 100% increase in funding not be able to shrink the class sizes enough? Does anyone know what the actual percentage of staffers vs teachers is, or what proportion of funding goes to each? Not just payroll, but also the office buildings for staffers vs school buildings for classrooms, etc.
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