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*meat. Stop using "flesh" for food : the right term is meat. You're not better than the guy who work in slaughterhouses that you despise if you want to push yo

• uxcolumbo 3y ago
  >> *meat. Stop using "flesh" for food : the right term is meat. You are eating animal flesh - that's a fact. Yes I deliberately didn't use the term meat to illustrate a point and you helped me prove it. We invent these new words to distract from the reality of where meat comes from. For example saying 'I had chopped up baby sheep for dinner' doesn't sound as nice as 'I had lamb chops for dinner'. >> You're not better than the guy who work in slaughterhouses that you despise if you want to push your ideology on kids, while they're still vulnerable. Quite a carnivorous behavior, truly. Again - you're making the mistake of limited binary thinking. Where did I say I'm better than a slaughterhouse worker? Tell me what is ideological about raising awareness about the horrors of animal factory farming or how it majorly contributes to the climate crisis. Here's another fact for you. Slaughterhouse workers experience PTSD [0]. What do you think having to kill hundreds of animals a day does to the human psyche? Demand for animal flesh creates this situation. If you had no job options but these two: a) day in day out kill animals, see and smell blood and feces. b) pick, pack and chop up vegetables all day. Which option would you go for? Another example - this person [1], which most people would describe as tough - former MMA fighter Michael Bisping - could not work in a slaughterhouse because it's too horrible and drives you mad. Are you really so attached to your cheese and eating animal flesh that you don't care about any of this or your child's future life on this planet? Are all the climate scientist pseudo scientists? We are humans and we should strive to be humane, which definition is 'Characterized by kindness, mercy, or compassion.' Tell me what's kind about animal factory farms? Tell me what's compassionate about killing sentient beings against their will so you can have a burger? Why not look for better and more humane food system solutions that will ensure we don't destroy our biosphere? >> Or please, we'll show to your kids Iraqi children dying from malnutrition and from depleted-uranium induced cancer each time you use your credit card. Yes agree - we should teach about the realities of war. Good point. So why not teach both? >> Also, your UN report is quite laughable. Why would such a solution should be imposed everywhere on the globe? There are places where you can't do traditional farming (e.g pastures). Again, you're thinking like if we were all overweight Americans. Most of the animal flesh produced is from large scale animal farming. This is not talking about your small & happy slaughtered animal farm. The point is it's not sustainable to meet the current demand of animal flesh. It needs to be drastically reduced and replaced with more sustainable alternatives - if we want to have a chance at limiting global heating or at least avoiding the worst outcome. >> What you're saying about Sweden is plain wrong: https://fee.org/articles/sweden-once-mocked-for-its-covid-st https://fee.org/articles/sweden-once-mocked-for-its-covid-st... So FEE.org is an economic think tank. What do you think they care more about, the economy or public health? Of course they will write from the perspective of the economy. Please see this rigorous study instead [2]. >> How's your 5th booster going by the way? I don't need it and I'm grateful that Science gave us vaccines. [0] Reality of slaughterhouse work https://metro.co.uk/2017/12/31/how-killing-animals-everyday-leaves-slaughterhouse-workers-traumatised-7175087/ https://metro.co.uk/2017/12/31/how-killing-animals-everyday-... "Stuck in such a life, Butler described how it would make them ‘more prone to violence’, and ‘much more likely to physically attack whatever or whoever you are mad at’ – and described in detail some of the ‘games’ workers would play with the carcasses of dead animals. In one such game, slaughterers would apparently rip the heads off live chickens, place the heads on their fingers and use them as puppets. In another, they would start so-called ‘shit fights’, where they would squeeze a live chicken so violently that its feces would squirt out onto another person." [1] Former MMA fighter on slaughterhouse work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoE-d-ZWmTM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoE-d-ZWmTM [2] Evaluation of science advice during the COVID-19 pandemic in Sweden https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-022-01097-5#Sec3 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-022-01097-5#Sec3