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We shouldn't use a new format because some website sent you the wrong mime type and you don't know how to use an image converter? By that logic we should still
by jemmyw 4y ago
We shouldn't use a new format because some website sent you the wrong mime type and you don't know how to use an image converter? By that logic we should still be using .bmp files for all images.
- selcuka 4y agoI believe the main point is that Windows doesn't support AVIF desktop backgrounds, which is annoying. PNG and JPG (and possibly GIF) are common denominators for a vast majority of systems and applications.
- exmadscientist 4y agoThe main point is that nothing supports AVIF other than browsers, and one or two image manipulation programs. If I have to open up GIMP every time I want to insert an image into a document, we have lost.
- pasabagi 4y ago$ convert yourfile.avif yourfile.jpg
- exmadscientist 4y agoHow much time does that waste, every single time I have to interact with these? How much quality does it lose? Face it, these "modern" image formats are a massive annoyance for everyone except Web engineers.
- pasabagi 4y ago... so different formats exist because people want different things out of images, for instance for print, or for web, or for editing, and because all compression algorithms have their own tradeoffs. That's not a web engineer thing. I can't really imagine a world where you don't have to choose what format files should be in, and I can't really imagine a more easy way to do that conversion.
- jemmyw 4y agoI don't know that much about the subject but I had an image for a website I was optimising and the avif version was 10x smaller than the png version, even after I'd run through the normal techniques to squeeze it down, and 3x smaller than the jpeg while still looking much better. That's a really significant saving. Making an image your wallpaper isn't something people do every day, going through an extra step is hardly onerous. And support will increase until it no longer matters.
- sroussey 4y agoEvery apple device supports AVIF natively and by default.
- olyjohn 4y agoI guess that's great if you own an Apple device?
- afavour 4y agoCertainly it is annoying. But it’s a very poor reason to continue using an inefficient codec.