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Caravaggio Lost at Sea (2022)

60 points by prismatic 4y ago

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jacquesm 4y ago
Very interesting. My dad used to frequent the Waterlooplein flea market in Amsterdam and once picked up a Paul Citroen for 25 guilders. We ate from the money it fetched at auction for a long, long time.
- JauntyHatAngle 4y ago
  You traded it for chocolate coins??
- samplenoise 4y ago
  If you read Dutch, you may enjoy Grand Hotel Europa by I.L. Pfeijffer. It touches on the Caravaggio question.
- lasche 3y ago
  Nice, been there recently when visiting Amsterdam. Nice place to visit
musicale 4y ago
A fugitive from murder charges, Caravaggio would probably be canceled today. But he's an astonishing artist - and his fear of capital punishment became a theme of his work.
- suddenclarity 4y ago
  Do you really get cancelled for violence? Aren't plenty of famous rappers known for having been involved in crimes? At least here in Sweden it became a discussion after public service gave awards to gang members. To get cancelled, you basically have to do something sex related or have the wrong opinion.
  - mock-possum 3y ago
    ‘Wrong opinion’ specifically in the sense that you oppose the process of human rights, specifically the rights of traditionally oppressed and minority groups, to be treated fairly and held as equals amongst the general population, and to not suffer the dehumanizing indignity of oppression, and the violence of bigotry.
    - mellosouls 3y ago
      No, "wrong opinion" in the sense of challenging overreach carried out in the name only of your examples - normally by unpleasant people in mobs who have appointed themselves arbiters of the limits of public discourse. But of course, this is very well known and its unfortunate it keeps needing to be restated.
labrador 4y ago
I've enjoyed the below over-the-top presentation many times. It does the tumultuous life of Caravaggio justice Simon Schama - The Power of Art - Caravaggio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiH_ootDtTs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiH_ootDtTs
- jpfr 3y ago
  The ArtHoles episodes on Caravaggio are likewise superb. If you can stomach the bro-style presentation. The author conveys a much better picture on the circumstances at the time than typically dry textbooks or historical accounts. https://artholes.podbean.com/e/caravaggio-ep-1-but-firsta-tale-of-fish-sandwiches-butter-towers-and-judas-cradles/ https://artholes.podbean.com/e/caravaggio-ep-1-but-firsta-ta...
dredmorbius 3y ago
Interesting that a small unincorporated east Texas community is purchasing major art works: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomlinson_Hill,_Texas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomlinson_Hill,_Texas> I suspect the purchaser was actually James Tomilson "Tom" Hill III: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Tomilson_Hill#External_links https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Tomilson_Hill#External_link...>

60 points by prismatic 4y ago

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Very interesting. My dad used to frequent the Waterlooplein flea market in Amsterdam and once picked up a Paul Citroen for 25 guilders. We ate from the money it fetched at auction for a long, long time.

JauntyHatAngle 4y ago
You traded it for chocolate coins??
samplenoise 4y ago
If you read Dutch, you may enjoy Grand Hotel Europa by I.L. Pfeijffer. It touches on the Caravaggio question.
lasche 3y ago
Nice, been there recently when visiting Amsterdam. Nice place to visit

musicale 4y ago

A fugitive from murder charges, Caravaggio would probably be canceled today. But he's an astonishing artist - and his fear of capital punishment became a theme of his work.

suddenclarity 4y ago
Do you really get cancelled for violence? Aren't plenty of famous rappers known for having been involved in crimes? At least here in Sweden it became a discussion after public service gave awards to gang members. To get cancelled, you basically have to do something sex related or have the wrong opinion.
- mock-possum 3y ago
  ‘Wrong opinion’ specifically in the sense that you oppose the process of human rights, specifically the rights of traditionally oppressed and minority groups, to be treated fairly and held as equals amongst the general population, and to not suffer the dehumanizing indignity of oppression, and the violence of bigotry.
  - mellosouls 3y ago
    No, "wrong opinion" in the sense of challenging overreach carried out in the name only of your examples - normally by unpleasant people in mobs who have appointed themselves arbiters of the limits of public discourse. But of course, this is very well known and its unfortunate it keeps needing to be restated.

labrador 4y ago

I've enjoyed the below over-the-top presentation many times. It does the tumultuous life of Caravaggio justice Simon Schama - The Power of Art - Caravaggio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiH_ootDtTs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiH_ootDtTs

jpfr 3y ago
The ArtHoles episodes on Caravaggio are likewise superb. If you can stomach the bro-style presentation. The author conveys a much better picture on the circumstances at the time than typically dry textbooks or historical accounts. https://artholes.podbean.com/e/caravaggio-ep-1-but-firsta-tale-of-fish-sandwiches-butter-towers-and-judas-cradles/ https://artholes.podbean.com/e/caravaggio-ep-1-but-firsta-ta...

dredmorbius 3y ago

Interesting that a small unincorporated east Texas community is purchasing major art works: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomlinson_Hill,_Texas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomlinson_Hill,_Texas> I suspect the purchaser was actually James Tomilson "Tom" Hill III: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Tomilson_Hill#External_links https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Tomilson_Hill#External_link...>