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There should be a term for this : beautism. Eg usage: This lady is a victim of beautism.

by airocker 4y ago

flappyeagle 4y ago
You got it reversed
- usui 4y ago
  It could still hurt long-term. They could arguably be made a victim from such treatment. Some people, applying to either men and women, get shocked when their youthful appearance doesn't work as well anymore for social or team dynamics.
  - luckylion 4y ago
    A similar argument: a billionaire could find themselves embarrassed when they run into something that cannot be bought because they don't care about money. But to conclude from that that being a billionaire hurts your chances in life seems ridiculous.
- DoreenMichele 4y ago
  It's actually problematic if people react weirdly to you being pretty or otherwise attractive and effectively give you inaccurate feedback concerning the quality of your work. I think this is part why Theranos was such a debacle. I have difficulty imagining a company led by a man being valued at $10 billion based on a lot of hot air and then going to zero overnight as happened with Theranos.
  - xenocratus 4y ago
    WeWork. Need I say more?
    - PartiallyTyped 4y ago
      Yes please, I don't have a datapoint regarding WeWork so I don't know what you are referring to.
    - DoreenMichele 4y ago
      I've heard that before. I don't think it really compares. You go to the Wikipedia page for Theranos and it opens with "Theranos Inc. was an American privately held corporation..." WeWork still exists. It has a fraught history but did not go overnight from a multi-billion dollar valuation to zero. Neumann also had prior business experience, was older and had a business partner, so he had a lot more street cred for whatever hype he was selling than Holmes did. Holmes was a 19 year old college drop out with no track record who claimed to be celibate in her twenties due to her extreme devotion to her company. In reality, she was secretly living with an older man who was an investor in her company. I really don't think the two compare.
  - TacticalCoder 4y ago
    > I have difficulty imagining a company led by a man being valued at $10 billion based on a lot of hot air and then going to zero overnight as happened with Theranos. FTX / SBF.
    - DoreenMichele 4y ago
      A much better example than WeWork.
  - MisterBastahrd 4y ago
    Is it problematic? Certainly not for the employee. Surely there's about a 10-20 year span where this person is getting ahead due to factors that are external to their work before age starts to take its toll on their looks. A bald, average-looking, overweight man and a slim, attractive man with a full head of hair with the exact same production will not be treated the same in most companies. Of the two, the more attractive guy will be seen as management material. A future face of the company. So they will get promoted first. And once they get ahead, they're not giving that lead up, because these comparisons will happen again and again at leach level. And the Theranos woman? Her connections got her the fame she needed, and she then relied on cultish tropes to trick folks into giving her money. Even with hours in a makeup chair, she's barely even attractive at all.
    - DoreenMichele 4y ago
      Last November, Holmes was sentenced to more than 11 years in prison. Probably not the outcome she was shooting for when she dropped out of college at age 19 to start her own company.
    - theodric 4y ago
      > she's barely even attractive at all To each their own, I suppose. I thought she was cute.
      - MisterBastahrd 4y ago
        Well, I'm not giving bonus points for blonde hair and pale skin, and otherwise she's got a completely average bone structure and facial features on the verge of having chipmunk cheeks. I just can't see how someone who looks that plain would be able to coerce people to invest in her company based on her attractiveness.
xhevahir 4y ago
There already is a term, "lookism."
- airocker 4y ago
  Lookism should be opposite of beautism .

There should be a term for this : beautism. Eg usage: This lady is a victim of beautism.

flappyeagle 4y ago

You got it reversed

usui 4y ago
It could still hurt long-term. They could arguably be made a victim from such treatment. Some people, applying to either men and women, get shocked when their youthful appearance doesn't work as well anymore for social or team dynamics.
- luckylion 4y ago
  A similar argument: a billionaire could find themselves embarrassed when they run into something that cannot be bought because they don't care about money. But to conclude from that that being a billionaire hurts your chances in life seems ridiculous.
DoreenMichele 4y ago
It's actually problematic if people react weirdly to you being pretty or otherwise attractive and effectively give you inaccurate feedback concerning the quality of your work. I think this is part why Theranos was such a debacle. I have difficulty imagining a company led by a man being valued at $10 billion based on a lot of hot air and then going to zero overnight as happened with Theranos.
- xenocratus 4y ago
  WeWork. Need I say more?
  - PartiallyTyped 4y ago
    Yes please, I don't have a datapoint regarding WeWork so I don't know what you are referring to.
  - DoreenMichele 4y ago
    I've heard that before. I don't think it really compares. You go to the Wikipedia page for Theranos and it opens with "Theranos Inc. was an American privately held corporation..." WeWork still exists. It has a fraught history but did not go overnight from a multi-billion dollar valuation to zero. Neumann also had prior business experience, was older and had a business partner, so he had a lot more street cred for whatever hype he was selling than Holmes did. Holmes was a 19 year old college drop out with no track record who claimed to be celibate in her twenties due to her extreme devotion to her company. In reality, she was secretly living with an older man who was an investor in her company. I really don't think the two compare.
- TacticalCoder 4y ago
  > I have difficulty imagining a company led by a man being valued at $10 billion based on a lot of hot air and then going to zero overnight as happened with Theranos. FTX / SBF.
  - DoreenMichele 4y ago
    A much better example than WeWork.
- MisterBastahrd 4y ago
  Is it problematic? Certainly not for the employee. Surely there's about a 10-20 year span where this person is getting ahead due to factors that are external to their work before age starts to take its toll on their looks. A bald, average-looking, overweight man and a slim, attractive man with a full head of hair with the exact same production will not be treated the same in most companies. Of the two, the more attractive guy will be seen as management material. A future face of the company. So they will get promoted first. And once they get ahead, they're not giving that lead up, because these comparisons will happen again and again at leach level. And the Theranos woman? Her connections got her the fame she needed, and she then relied on cultish tropes to trick folks into giving her money. Even with hours in a makeup chair, she's barely even attractive at all.
  - DoreenMichele 4y ago
    Last November, Holmes was sentenced to more than 11 years in prison. Probably not the outcome she was shooting for when she dropped out of college at age 19 to start her own company.
  - theodric 4y ago
    > she's barely even attractive at all To each their own, I suppose. I thought she was cute.
    - MisterBastahrd 4y ago
      Well, I'm not giving bonus points for blonde hair and pale skin, and otherwise she's got a completely average bone structure and facial features on the verge of having chipmunk cheeks. I just can't see how someone who looks that plain would be able to coerce people to invest in her company based on her attractiveness.

xhevahir 4y ago

There already is a term, "lookism."

airocker 4y ago
Lookism should be opposite of beautism .