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Just ban carry on luggage. Of course this won't happen because of all the business travellers. But I've noticed that lots of time is spent trying to stow carr

Just ban carry on luggage. Of course this won't happen because of all the business travellers. But I've noticed that lots of time is spent trying to stow carry ons and close overhead bins. Just ban carry ons and reserve the time for getting people into their seats.

avalys 4y ago
So you want to ban carry-on luggage so you can get seated 10 minutes faster - guaranteeing that every traveler needs to spend another 10 minutes at their destination waiting for their checked bag to show up at the baggage claim. How does that make sense?
- readthenotes1 4y ago
  10?? In larger airports it can be much longer, assuming your bag even makes it. Disclosure: after my last misrouted bag, I have probably checked bags twice since 2011.
- rs999gti 4y ago
  The time is not spent boarding the plane. It is spent waiting on bags in the terminal. Solve each problem independently and stop trying to mix them. Also, we don't have to ban carry ons, we can use Hacker News and Reddit's favorite blunt tool - taxes. Apply a large add on cost (taxes) for each carry on. The larger and heavier, the more add on paid. This would also offset the fuel costs of carry ons. Of course business users could just expense the carry on add on cost, which preserves carry ons for them
  - avalys 4y ago
    Why would you apply this weight-based tax to just the carry-on bags, and not checked luggage, or the passengers themselves?
    - rs999gti 4y ago
      > and not checked luggage, or the passengers themselves? Checked luggage are weighed and accounted for at check in. For passengers - just assume 136 KG (which is really generous) times (the number of seats plus total crew)
Uehreka 4y ago
Oh hell no, not when airlines charge huge fees for checked bags. If I’m away for less than a week I move heaven and earth to get everything into a carryon, and most people seem to do the same. You can’t blame us for responding to incentives.
- ghaff 4y ago
  If I'm taking a mostly urban type trip, I can pretty much fit needed stuff for an indefinite period (which is admittedly pretty much never longer than three weeks) into a fully-compliant carry-on. About the only times I check luggage is for outdoor activities or if I have to carry business-related stuff to an event.
rewgs 4y ago
Whenever I've checked my luggage, it has more often than not been at least temporarily misplaced, if not permanently lost. I mean this literally -- more than 50% of the time, something has gone wrong. I know that I'm a data point of one and am really just unlucky, but regardless, I am quite simply never checking my luggage ever again. I have to imagine that if carry-ons were banned, and thus the amount of checked baggage increased, more luggage would be lost. Also, more time would presumably be spent waiting on the tarmac while the luggage is loaded, so all this "saved" time would really just amount to more time spent sitting there doing nothing. So yeah, this suggestion is a hard pass from me.
- mindslight 4y ago
  It sounds like you have a straightforward way to get a lot of free clothes.
  - upon_drumhead 4y ago
    Eh. The one time my bag was lost, I gave up after around a month of back and forth trying to get the money for the lost bag. It just wasn’t worth my time.
  - rewgs 4y ago
    Yes, arriving in a destination with zero clothes and spending all my time trying to get my stuff back instead of enjoying whatever I'm there to do is totally a great thing that I'd love to experience again because it might result in me having to purchase all my clothes again an unspecified time later. Absolute win.
    - mindslight 4y ago
      I've had this happen to me once and I did spend way too much of my trip time coaxing their broken system to get me my bag back. As I understand it, the right thing to do is go shopping for the clothes you need as soon as your bag is missing, and then request reimbursements for those costs. This is congruent with how the claim process worked out for me. Although perhaps airlines have been working on weaseling out of their liability in the name of cost cutting.

avalys 4y ago

So you want to ban carry-on luggage so you can get seated 10 minutes faster - guaranteeing that every traveler needs to spend another 10 minutes at their destination waiting for their checked bag to show up at the baggage claim. How does that make sense?

readthenotes1 4y ago
10?? In larger airports it can be much longer, assuming your bag even makes it. Disclosure: after my last misrouted bag, I have probably checked bags twice since 2011.
rs999gti 4y ago
The time is not spent boarding the plane. It is spent waiting on bags in the terminal. Solve each problem independently and stop trying to mix them. Also, we don't have to ban carry ons, we can use Hacker News and Reddit's favorite blunt tool - taxes. Apply a large add on cost (taxes) for each carry on. The larger and heavier, the more add on paid. This would also offset the fuel costs of carry ons. Of course business users could just expense the carry on add on cost, which preserves carry ons for them
- avalys 4y ago
  Why would you apply this weight-based tax to just the carry-on bags, and not checked luggage, or the passengers themselves?
  - rs999gti 4y ago
    > and not checked luggage, or the passengers themselves? Checked luggage are weighed and accounted for at check in. For passengers - just assume 136 KG (which is really generous) times (the number of seats plus total crew)

Uehreka 4y ago

Oh hell no, not when airlines charge huge fees for checked bags. If I’m away for less than a week I move heaven and earth to get everything into a carryon, and most people seem to do the same. You can’t blame us for responding to incentives.

ghaff 4y ago
If I'm taking a mostly urban type trip, I can pretty much fit needed stuff for an indefinite period (which is admittedly pretty much never longer than three weeks) into a fully-compliant carry-on. About the only times I check luggage is for outdoor activities or if I have to carry business-related stuff to an event.

rewgs 4y ago

Whenever I've checked my luggage, it has more often than not been at least temporarily misplaced, if not permanently lost. I mean this literally -- more than 50% of the time, something has gone wrong. I know that I'm a data point of one and am really just unlucky, but regardless, I am quite simply never checking my luggage ever again. I have to imagine that if carry-ons were banned, and thus the amount of checked baggage increased, more luggage would be lost. Also, more time would presumably be spent waiting on the tarmac while the luggage is loaded, so all this "saved" time would really just amount to more time spent sitting there doing nothing. So yeah, this suggestion is a hard pass from me.

mindslight 4y ago
It sounds like you have a straightforward way to get a lot of free clothes.
- upon_drumhead 4y ago
  Eh. The one time my bag was lost, I gave up after around a month of back and forth trying to get the money for the lost bag. It just wasn’t worth my time.
- rewgs 4y ago
  Yes, arriving in a destination with zero clothes and spending all my time trying to get my stuff back instead of enjoying whatever I'm there to do is totally a great thing that I'd love to experience again because it might result in me having to purchase all my clothes again an unspecified time later. Absolute win.
  - mindslight 4y ago
    I've had this happen to me once and I did spend way too much of my trip time coaxing their broken system to get me my bag back. As I understand it, the right thing to do is go shopping for the clothes you need as soon as your bag is missing, and then request reimbursements for those costs. This is congruent with how the claim process worked out for me. Although perhaps airlines have been working on weaseling out of their liability in the name of cost cutting.