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1. Most companies aren’t in the business of making tasteful offers. 2. Why would they double this person’s pay? This person no longer has a job and needs one!

makeitdouble 4y ago
> Why would they double this person’s pay? I'd see this more at a company like Twitter than Microsoft, but trying to refill a role, especially with the same people after once firing them is often a sign that they fucked up and let go people that were critically needed. That's the kind of conditions where the person comes back as a contractor, but paid significantly more. This also happens a lot in small companies with stupid managers.
Mountain_Skies 4y ago
The "and needs one" is the important part here. Not everyone has a need to always be employed. For those who have the option to sit out for a while, they can demand a premium. They might not get it, but if the employer wants to tempt them off the sidelines, insulting them with an offer of half pay isn't the way to go. But yes, for those desperate for income, the employer can sometimes get away with that type of behavior until the employee finds another option and leaves.
ghusto 4y ago
> Why would they double this person’s pay? This person no longer has a job and needs one! Because he's contracting now. Contractors typically don't take jobs for salary level pay, let alone _less_ that salary level pay. The main reason we charge more is to cover costs for insurance, and all the other things a company would normally pay for — but it's also because we don't _need_ the job, _they_ need the job filled.
- hinkley 4y ago
  And likelihood of 3/4 employment.
dilyevsky 4y ago
Because it’s only logical that if company realized it made a mistake it would be cheaper to just hire someone back for more pay who’s already ramped up? But you’re right that most management is too incompetent to realize this
kolinko 4y ago
Assuming the person is a professional, they can find another full time job. In this case the company needs to pay more to compensate for the missing full time job perks (stability of income etc). That's why hiring contractors is usually more expensive per hour than hiring full time staff.

makeitdouble 4y ago

> Why would they double this person’s pay? I'd see this more at a company like Twitter than Microsoft, but trying to refill a role, especially with the same people after once firing them is often a sign that they fucked up and let go people that were critically needed. That's the kind of conditions where the person comes back as a contractor, but paid significantly more. This also happens a lot in small companies with stupid managers.

Mountain_Skies 4y ago

The "and needs one" is the important part here. Not everyone has a need to always be employed. For those who have the option to sit out for a while, they can demand a premium. They might not get it, but if the employer wants to tempt them off the sidelines, insulting them with an offer of half pay isn't the way to go. But yes, for those desperate for income, the employer can sometimes get away with that type of behavior until the employee finds another option and leaves.

ghusto 4y ago

> Why would they double this person’s pay? This person no longer has a job and needs one! Because he's contracting now. Contractors typically don't take jobs for salary level pay, let alone _less_ that salary level pay. The main reason we charge more is to cover costs for insurance, and all the other things a company would normally pay for — but it's also because we don't _need_ the job, _they_ need the job filled.

hinkley 4y ago
And likelihood of 3/4 employment.

dilyevsky 4y ago

Because it’s only logical that if company realized it made a mistake it would be cheaper to just hire someone back for more pay who’s already ramped up? But you’re right that most management is too incompetent to realize this

kolinko 4y ago

Assuming the person is a professional, they can find another full time job. In this case the company needs to pay more to compensate for the missing full time job perks (stability of income etc). That's why hiring contractors is usually more expensive per hour than hiring full time staff.