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The intent we knew is dying and once gone will never come back. I’d go as far to say as it’s already basically done. There is just too much interference with i

The intent we knew is dying and once gone will never come back. I’d go as far to say as it’s already basically done. There is just too much interference with its functioning, combine this with the dangers of autonomous AI systems hacking infra, growing government weariness over recent leaks and the growing ease of spreading lies, I can’t see how it can continue. This is absolutely crazy, but here’s the thing. Because the internet is becoming so centralised and new surveillance tech has emerged, this type of censorship just seems more and more possible. More possible than anytime in history.

xwdv 4y ago
I imagine a world someday where browsers no longer exist. Everything is just an app that you download and the internet is infrastructure for pushing data around to apps from content servers. Some people probably live in this world already, I know several people who spend little, if any, time looking through websites or forums. There would be no reason to have websites, because it would all just be AI garbage that has been SEOed to hell. No reason to search the web because you just ask an AI on your phone for an answer. It’s over. Perhaps some community of people will still build traditional websites, but it honestly just feels like they’re LARPing. There’s no reason to build a website over any other piece of content like a video, or images, or a game, or a story.
- ChatGTP 4y ago
  It is an now , with the AI arms race heating up, there is true incentive to keep as much data in walled gardens as possible so you have more training data than the next guy.
Buttons840 4y ago
Multiple States have already passed laws requiring everyone to upload their government papers (drivers license or passport, etc) to use social media. Things seem to be changing, that's for sure -- and fast.
- fredgrott 4y ago
  ahem name them as I very sure that freedom of speech via Constitution trumps weird reactionary without facts blithering. In fact no US State has passed laws that will withstand review under the US Constitution restricting use of interstate commerce as its not a State power under the US Constitution but a US Congress power. Yes, hard to believe but using any internet service is Interstate Commerce only under US Congress power not state power.
  - Buttons840 4y ago
    I've discussed this before[0], dragonwriter has a good response explaining that this law is not automatically illegal just because it affects interstate commerce. I do hope you're right though, and that these laws are ruled unconstitutional. The Utah law is planned to take effect in early 2024. In addition to Utah, Arkansas has or will soon pass a very similar law. Then there is this article talking about Texas trying to regulate the internet by themselves. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35310647 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35310647
    - Eddy_Viscosity2 4y ago
      Something is only legal or illegal up to the point where it reaches the supreme court and Clarence Thomas is paid off to say whether it is or isn't.

xwdv 4y ago

I imagine a world someday where browsers no longer exist. Everything is just an app that you download and the internet is infrastructure for pushing data around to apps from content servers. Some people probably live in this world already, I know several people who spend little, if any, time looking through websites or forums. There would be no reason to have websites, because it would all just be AI garbage that has been SEOed to hell. No reason to search the web because you just ask an AI on your phone for an answer. It’s over. Perhaps some community of people will still build traditional websites, but it honestly just feels like they’re LARPing. There’s no reason to build a website over any other piece of content like a video, or images, or a game, or a story.

ChatGTP 4y ago
It is an now , with the AI arms race heating up, there is true incentive to keep as much data in walled gardens as possible so you have more training data than the next guy.

Buttons840 4y ago

Multiple States have already passed laws requiring everyone to upload their government papers (drivers license or passport, etc) to use social media. Things seem to be changing, that's for sure -- and fast.

fredgrott 4y ago
ahem name them as I very sure that freedom of speech via Constitution trumps weird reactionary without facts blithering. In fact no US State has passed laws that will withstand review under the US Constitution restricting use of interstate commerce as its not a State power under the US Constitution but a US Congress power. Yes, hard to believe but using any internet service is Interstate Commerce only under US Congress power not state power.
- Buttons840 4y ago
  I've discussed this before[0], dragonwriter has a good response explaining that this law is not automatically illegal just because it affects interstate commerce. I do hope you're right though, and that these laws are ruled unconstitutional. The Utah law is planned to take effect in early 2024. In addition to Utah, Arkansas has or will soon pass a very similar law. Then there is this article talking about Texas trying to regulate the internet by themselves. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35310647 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35310647
  - Eddy_Viscosity2 4y ago
    Something is only legal or illegal up to the point where it reaches the supreme court and Clarence Thomas is paid off to say whether it is or isn't.