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If you have a policy or procedure, what you’re suggesting is ok in most companies. There’s no law that says that you need to keep security camera footage for a

If you have a policy or procedure, what you’re suggesting is ok in most companies. There’s no law that says that you need to keep security camera footage for any length of time. If your practice to to retain for 7 days, and you get a subpoena to provide it 10 days later, no problem. But if you are directed to retain footage from February 30th, or have a reasonable foreknowledge that you should keep the footage, you’re in trouble. The answers vary by company. If you sue or investigate people all of the time, you want to keep everything forever. If you get sued frequently, you want to get rid of the data as soon as practical. If you consciously don’t create records for matters that aren’t confidential, people are probably going to infer something.

jmole 4y ago
Footage from February 30th would be pretty hard to find no matter what your retention policy is.
defrost 4y ago
> If you consciously don’t create records for matters that aren’t confidential, people are probably going to infer something. I'm suggesting that software companies that provide products and companies that use them adopt a default position of NOT creating records | histories | customer interactions and only engage record keeping by an explicit action that has a time limit and is logged with a reason for retention. I have no issue with legally required | meeting minute keeping | security footage for a month | etc | records. If that becomes the norm then people would no longer why (for example) worker to worker chat conversations "across the bench" aren't being kept for 50 years (or even longer than a month | current project duration). Mechanics working on a car have no need to be recorded in perpetuity (although its handy to retain footage for XX weeks in case of an accusation of theft from a vehicle) just as shop floor software workers have no need to be recorded "forever".
- Spooky23 4y ago
  The product in a mechanics shop is labor and parts. These get tracked via inventory. In knowledge work, the knowledge is the commodity. If you keep nothing beyond formal deliverables, you best have a system to capture the knowledge. Most organizations are very bad at that. It requires a lot of rules, policies and people to enforce those policies. Google for a government retention schedule. It’s probably a 100 page document for a state or large city.

jmole 4y ago

Footage from February 30th would be pretty hard to find no matter what your retention policy is.

defrost 4y ago

> If you consciously don’t create records for matters that aren’t confidential, people are probably going to infer something. I'm suggesting that software companies that provide products and companies that use them adopt a default position of NOT creating records | histories | customer interactions and only engage record keeping by an explicit action that has a time limit and is logged with a reason for retention. I have no issue with legally required | meeting minute keeping | security footage for a month | etc | records. If that becomes the norm then people would no longer why (for example) worker to worker chat conversations "across the bench" aren't being kept for 50 years (or even longer than a month | current project duration). Mechanics working on a car have no need to be recorded in perpetuity (although its handy to retain footage for XX weeks in case of an accusation of theft from a vehicle) just as shop floor software workers have no need to be recorded "forever".

Spooky23 4y ago
The product in a mechanics shop is labor and parts. These get tracked via inventory. In knowledge work, the knowledge is the commodity. If you keep nothing beyond formal deliverables, you best have a system to capture the knowledge. Most organizations are very bad at that. It requires a lot of rules, policies and people to enforce those policies. Google for a government retention schedule. It’s probably a 100 page document for a state or large city.