You claim that I need to do all these things to not exploit humans. I buy my clothibg from thrift stores and buy food at grocery stores. My electronics are used

You claim that I need to do all these things to not exploit humans. I buy my clothibg from thrift stores and buy food at grocery stores. My electronics are used, just like most of what I own. If someone works a job, they aren't exploited remotely similarely to an animal in a farm, are they? - I'm arguing that talking about nutrition is nonsensical, as there is no settled science on it. You keep spewing facts about nutrition, and then saying that nutrition is unscientific. If you want, we can stop talking about it. I've been living without animal flesh or secretions for almost a decade now and I'm healthy. I don't have protein issue and know no one that does. You keep bringing it up as if it were a real problem though. - I understand, but I'm telling you that the "hood conditions" you speak of dont exist, and that animals in farms are exploited and suffer. - You talk a lot about the USA, I don't know why. Farms in the UK, Australia and most other countries have been proven to have the same standards, go watch earthlings, dominion and Land of hope and glory if you want (you can skim trough yo get an idea). - I don't think any animals were "made" for anything. They should not be used or owned, just like human beings. The goats would be happier free in their habitat, just like the dog. You are tangled in your nonsense. Slow down and think about what you are saying, without skipping steps.