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> Thanks to the open-source efforts like LLaMA ... Is the LLaMA model really open source now? Last I checked it was only licensed for non-commercial use, which

> Thanks to the open-source efforts like LLaMA ... Is the LLaMA model really open source now? Last I checked it was only licensed for non-commercial use, which isn't open source software at least. Have they changed the license? Are people depending on "databases can't be copyrighted"? Are people just presuming they won't be caught? There's lots of OSS that can use LLaMA but that's different from the model itself. This is a genuine question, people are making assertions but I can't find evidence for the assertions.

Anduia 4y ago
Not all implementations of it use the same license. See for example lit-llama by Lightning AI: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35344787 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35344787
- dwheeler 4y ago
  That is for code to download the model, not for the model itself.
  - jerpint 4y ago
    They actually reimplemented the code to load the model. But it’s not clear if the weights of the model are free to use or not
    - Tepix 3y ago
      What do you mean, it's not clear? https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama links to https://forms.gle/jk851eBVbX1m5TAv5 https://forms.gle/jk851eBVbX1m5TAv5 which contains LLaMA license agreement below the form.
      - dwheeler 3y ago
        Ok, all evidence I can find is that the LLaMA model is not open source, and the article is just wrong. Software != model. If someone has evidence otherwise, please post.
wokwokwok 4y ago
Most people are distributing diff files like this https://github.com/lm-sys/FastChat#vicuna-weights https://github.com/lm-sys/FastChat#vicuna-weights Ie. Here’s a diff. Go find your own copy of the llama model and apply this patch. …and hoping that’s good enough to get away with; even though you can’t really argue it’s not distributing a derivative work in part. Distribution of the actual model (eg. Running it in your browser) seems to usually result in “and then Meta slaps you with a takedown notice”.
- Tepix 3y ago
  I've only seen vicuna do it so far but this is the right way for now.

Anduia 4y ago

Not all implementations of it use the same license. See for example lit-llama by Lightning AI: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35344787 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35344787

dwheeler 4y ago
That is for code to download the model, not for the model itself.
- jerpint 4y ago
  They actually reimplemented the code to load the model. But it’s not clear if the weights of the model are free to use or not
  - Tepix 3y ago
    What do you mean, it's not clear? https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama links to https://forms.gle/jk851eBVbX1m5TAv5 https://forms.gle/jk851eBVbX1m5TAv5 which contains LLaMA license agreement below the form.
    - dwheeler 3y ago
      Ok, all evidence I can find is that the LLaMA model is not open source, and the article is just wrong. Software != model. If someone has evidence otherwise, please post.

wokwokwok 4y ago

Most people are distributing diff files like this https://github.com/lm-sys/FastChat#vicuna-weights https://github.com/lm-sys/FastChat#vicuna-weights Ie. Here’s a diff. Go find your own copy of the llama model and apply this patch. …and hoping that’s good enough to get away with; even though you can’t really argue it’s not distributing a derivative work in part. Distribution of the actual model (eg. Running it in your browser) seems to usually result in “and then Meta slaps you with a takedown notice”.

Tepix 3y ago
I've only seen vicuna do it so far but this is the right way for now.