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any airport that actually cares will adapt a policy like PDX's street pricing, and then actually furnish the airport with places that exist out in the real worl

any airport that actually cares will adapt a policy like PDX's street pricing, and then actually furnish the airport with places that exist out in the real world--not just these weird airport-only chains (who tf is wolfgang puck) or one-offs (e.g. "TrendyNeighbourhood Burger," "TouristDistrict Tavern") I guess a really nice, mall-like airport with amenities you don't want to use (because they're too expensive) is still slightly better than a smaller airport whose amenities you don't use (because they don't exist). At least you have an option, though it doesn't stop it from being annoying. Sidenote, maybe LAX needs $15 sandos if it means they can afford to unshit their airport.

grishka 3y ago
> actually furnish the airport with places that exist out in the real world I clearly remember a Burger King in one of Moscow airports, probably DME. It is a regular Burger King serving everything one would expect, except the 1.5x prices.
- martyvis 3y ago
  In Australia most of the airports have Macca's or KFC selling at street prices. I think that sets precedent for the other food outlets to not price gouge.
- yibg 3y ago
  There is a Burger King in sfo. But yea more pricey
- boring_twenties 3y ago
  There is a Wendy's in the Vegas airport. It's conveniently located next to a bar
inferiorhuman 3y ago
who tf is wolfgang puck https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Puck https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Puck Just a guy who's got three Michelin starred restaurants.
- dreamcompiler 3y ago
  Indeed. But of course none of them are in airports.
  - 8note 3y ago
    I think he has an airport restaurant out in Seattle proper
    - antiframe 3y ago
      The airport in Seattle proper (Boeing Field) didn't have any restaurants when I was there last. Perhaps you're thinking of the airport in the city of SeaTac?
reisse 3y ago
Haven't seen airport-only chains in Europe, do they exist here? In Stockholm (Arlanda) there is standard McDonald's (among other chains) in the terminal.
- ajmurmann 3y ago
  Not aware of an airport-only chain there either, but European airports night not need them since they tend to funnel you through massive duty-free shopping malls. It will forever be a mystery to be who buys all that shit and keeps these stores in business. A bottle of liquor would need to be at a ridiculous price for me to deal with the hassle of transporting it back from an international trip.
  - boguscoder 3y ago
    Ha, you should watch slavic tourists in those duty frees (source: l’m slav) - a bottle of any above-cheap imported alcohol might be 10$+ cheaper there, nice cologne would save you even more and has higher chance of not being a knockoff from Asia. When they have a chance to save few dozen bucks - they do and I don’t see what’s bad about it, maybe apart from overflows in baggage compartments. I imagine folks like Swedes with alcohol monopoly and pretty fly taxes on alco would understand this too
  - throwaway2037 3y ago
    Chinese tourists are probably the #1 customers. The most savvy stores will have Mandarin-speaking staff!
  - laurentlb 3y ago
    I often buy local alcohol in the airport (instead of having to take a checked-in luggage).
- fuzzfactor 3y ago
  In Houston, they have a single city contractor operate all the concessions under the different branded establishments at each airport. It's the biggest-ticket way to do it, therefore it should provide the biggest bonus for some individual. Maybe even more than one individual could be intended to share the glory. The long-time franchisee was a very well-established & respected Houston-based restaurant corp that came in a decade ago on their strength of multiple local restaurants of various cuisines which were popular, successful, and affordable for at least occasional dining for most Houstonians. This could not hold up, recently dethroned by a nationwide airport-centric conractor with a deal crafted to compete on purely financial terms. related: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/houston/article/houston-hobby-airport-contract-pappas-17825820.php#photo-23519032 https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/houston/article/ho... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pappas-sues-houston-over-hobby-airport-deal-citing-call-from-former-mayoral-aide-during-bid-process/ar-AA19JZj0 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pappas-sues-houston-over-h... Firm that prevailed: https://us.areas.com/ https://us.areas.com/ >With an operating presence in 12 countries throughout Europe and the Americas, Areas offers a very broad range of food services designed to meet the expectations of both travelers and landlords in airports, highway service plazas and railway stations. Doesn't appear they would ever expect to prosper from non-captive food service. I can only imagine some of the councilmembers who voted in favor of the change could reason that sandwiches already cost $15 so they might as well take a bigger cut of that themselves.
george_808 3y ago
Unfortunately, LAX already does have $15 pre-packaged turkey sandwiches in Terminal 5. Thankfully, there’s a chick-fil-A and Einstein’s in brand-new Terminal 1 with reasonable prices. This motivates me to fly southwest more often.
zrail 3y ago
My spouse and I met in Portland and lived there for almost a decade. Every once in awhile we get a craving for Burgerville and haha-only-serious joke about flying to PDX and back with just enough time to eat at the airside location. Thus far we have suppressed the urge.

grishka 3y ago

> actually furnish the airport with places that exist out in the real world I clearly remember a Burger King in one of Moscow airports, probably DME. It is a regular Burger King serving everything one would expect, except the 1.5x prices.

martyvis 3y ago
In Australia most of the airports have Macca's or KFC selling at street prices. I think that sets precedent for the other food outlets to not price gouge.
yibg 3y ago
There is a Burger King in sfo. But yea more pricey
boring_twenties 3y ago
There is a Wendy's in the Vegas airport. It's conveniently located next to a bar

inferiorhuman 3y ago

who tf is wolfgang puck https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Puck https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Puck Just a guy who's got three Michelin starred restaurants.

dreamcompiler 3y ago
Indeed. But of course none of them are in airports.
- 8note 3y ago
  I think he has an airport restaurant out in Seattle proper
  - antiframe 3y ago
    The airport in Seattle proper (Boeing Field) didn't have any restaurants when I was there last. Perhaps you're thinking of the airport in the city of SeaTac?

reisse 3y ago

Haven't seen airport-only chains in Europe, do they exist here? In Stockholm (Arlanda) there is standard McDonald's (among other chains) in the terminal.

ajmurmann 3y ago
Not aware of an airport-only chain there either, but European airports night not need them since they tend to funnel you through massive duty-free shopping malls. It will forever be a mystery to be who buys all that shit and keeps these stores in business. A bottle of liquor would need to be at a ridiculous price for me to deal with the hassle of transporting it back from an international trip.
- boguscoder 3y ago
  Ha, you should watch slavic tourists in those duty frees (source: l’m slav) - a bottle of any above-cheap imported alcohol might be 10$+ cheaper there, nice cologne would save you even more and has higher chance of not being a knockoff from Asia. When they have a chance to save few dozen bucks - they do and I don’t see what’s bad about it, maybe apart from overflows in baggage compartments. I imagine folks like Swedes with alcohol monopoly and pretty fly taxes on alco would understand this too
- throwaway2037 3y ago
  Chinese tourists are probably the #1 customers. The most savvy stores will have Mandarin-speaking staff!
- laurentlb 3y ago
  I often buy local alcohol in the airport (instead of having to take a checked-in luggage).
fuzzfactor 3y ago
In Houston, they have a single city contractor operate all the concessions under the different branded establishments at each airport. It's the biggest-ticket way to do it, therefore it should provide the biggest bonus for some individual. Maybe even more than one individual could be intended to share the glory. The long-time franchisee was a very well-established & respected Houston-based restaurant corp that came in a decade ago on their strength of multiple local restaurants of various cuisines which were popular, successful, and affordable for at least occasional dining for most Houstonians. This could not hold up, recently dethroned by a nationwide airport-centric conractor with a deal crafted to compete on purely financial terms. related: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/houston/article/houston-hobby-airport-contract-pappas-17825820.php#photo-23519032 https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/houston/article/ho... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pappas-sues-houston-over-hobby-airport-deal-citing-call-from-former-mayoral-aide-during-bid-process/ar-AA19JZj0 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pappas-sues-houston-over-h... Firm that prevailed: https://us.areas.com/ https://us.areas.com/ >With an operating presence in 12 countries throughout Europe and the Americas, Areas offers a very broad range of food services designed to meet the expectations of both travelers and landlords in airports, highway service plazas and railway stations. Doesn't appear they would ever expect to prosper from non-captive food service. I can only imagine some of the councilmembers who voted in favor of the change could reason that sandwiches already cost $15 so they might as well take a bigger cut of that themselves.

george_808 3y ago

Unfortunately, LAX already does have $15 pre-packaged turkey sandwiches in Terminal 5. Thankfully, there’s a chick-fil-A and Einstein’s in brand-new Terminal 1 with reasonable prices. This motivates me to fly southwest more often.

zrail 3y ago

My spouse and I met in Portland and lived there for almost a decade. Every once in awhile we get a craving for Burgerville and haha-only-serious joke about flying to PDX and back with just enough time to eat at the airside location. Thus far we have suppressed the urge.