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Do cheap tickets actually impact airport revenue? My understanding is that airlines pay a set price per takeoff and landing. So airports should generate constan

Do cheap tickets actually impact airport revenue? My understanding is that airlines pay a set price per takeoff and landing. So airports should generate constant revenue regardless of fluctuation in ticket prices.

tomrod 3y ago
Second order effects of higher airline fees would include airlines running less flights as people choose alternative options when facing higher passthrough pricing (tax by another name). This impacts airport profits.
lozenge 3y ago
Is that per seat or per plane? Seats have been getting packed closer together.
Symbiote 3y ago
Yes, at least in Europe. Ryanair is infamous for pushing a very hard bargain with airports, but it's common with all the low-cost airlines. Part of the airport's willingness to give Ryanair a discount is the expectation of full planes with a lot of seats, so there are more people to sell to. e.g. [1] Table 6, Warsaw Modlin airport charges Ryanair 6 PLN (€1.30) per passenger, vs the normal 40 PLN (€8.50). That's obviously significant when they sell flights for €15 or so. [1] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/317710545_International_tourism's_impact_on_regional_autonomy_Evidence_from_2004_EU_accession_countries/link/59e5358e458515250246f69a/download https://www.researchgate.net/publication/317710545_Internati...
- JadedEngineer 3y ago
  I wish airports didn't do that and Ryanair had to close down. One can only dream.
  - incone123 3y ago
    Is your complaint with that airline or with budget airlines in general? I'm old enough to remember when a 1 hour flight in Europe would still have hot drinks and snacks served included in the ticket price, but I don't really need that for short haul and I'm glad to pay less for a ticket.
    - JadedEngineer 3y ago
      I was talking about Ryanair specifically, have nothing against low cost. Ryanair lures you with low prices and then applies abusive policies on everything else.
- odiroot 3y ago
  Modlin airport is miserable. Shouldn't even have "Warsaw" in the name, as it's nowhere near. To get to Warsaw, you have to take a bus first, then switch to a local train.
lmz 3y ago
I think there are still savings to be made by low cost airlines in e.g. boarding passengers from the gate by bus to a remote location vs using a jetbridge.

tomrod 3y ago

Second order effects of higher airline fees would include airlines running less flights as people choose alternative options when facing higher passthrough pricing (tax by another name). This impacts airport profits.

lozenge 3y ago

Is that per seat or per plane? Seats have been getting packed closer together.

Symbiote 3y ago

Yes, at least in Europe. Ryanair is infamous for pushing a very hard bargain with airports, but it's common with all the low-cost airlines. Part of the airport's willingness to give Ryanair a discount is the expectation of full planes with a lot of seats, so there are more people to sell to. e.g. [1] Table 6, Warsaw Modlin airport charges Ryanair 6 PLN (€1.30) per passenger, vs the normal 40 PLN (€8.50). That's obviously significant when they sell flights for €15 or so. [1] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/317710545_International_tourism's_impact_on_regional_autonomy_Evidence_from_2004_EU_accession_countries/link/59e5358e458515250246f69a/download https://www.researchgate.net/publication/317710545_Internati...

JadedEngineer 3y ago
I wish airports didn't do that and Ryanair had to close down. One can only dream.
- incone123 3y ago
  Is your complaint with that airline or with budget airlines in general? I'm old enough to remember when a 1 hour flight in Europe would still have hot drinks and snacks served included in the ticket price, but I don't really need that for short haul and I'm glad to pay less for a ticket.
  - JadedEngineer 3y ago
    I was talking about Ryanair specifically, have nothing against low cost. Ryanair lures you with low prices and then applies abusive policies on everything else.
odiroot 3y ago
Modlin airport is miserable. Shouldn't even have "Warsaw" in the name, as it's nowhere near. To get to Warsaw, you have to take a bus first, then switch to a local train.

lmz 3y ago

I think there are still savings to be made by low cost airlines in e.g. boarding passengers from the gate by bus to a remote location vs using a jetbridge.