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you might want to google carbon emission of germany instead of reading fake news. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/10/23/germany-coal-climate-cop26/ ht

you might want to google carbon emission of germany instead of reading fake news. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/10/23/germany-coal-climate-cop26/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/10/23/germany-coal...

EntrePrescott 4y ago
The fact that the shutdown of nuclear energy in Germany is based on irrational ideological fearmongering and that it's doubly stupid to do so BEFORE having finished building up sufficient renewable energy generation and storage capacity, thus leading, at least temporarily, to a de-facto replacement of a sizeable proportion of the part previously held by nuclear energy with fossil energies like coal that are far more dirty (with CO₂ and other pollutants)… … doesn't in any way change the fact that Germany has indeed been massively investing in renewable energies and has built up enormous capacities in that domain that account for a much higher percentage of renewables in the energy mix than the overwhelming majority of developed countries… and that those early and continuous massive investments by Germany have played a major role in bringing these renewable energies to the much improved viability, maturity and price level they now have. There is no contradiction between those two facts.
- HyperSane 4y ago
  Shutting down nuclear energy doesn't change the fact of Germany's investment in renewables but it DOES make it pretty pointless. They spent hundreds of billions of dollars to achieve zero reduction in CO2 per kWh.
- retinaros 4y ago
  renewable energy in a country such as germany need non renewable energy to work when there is no wind or sun. figure out if its better then to have nuclear or coal
ZeroGravitas 4y ago
I prefer GHG emmisions of the entire economy per dollar of GDP, as this doesn't just cherry pick one sector: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co2-emissions-and-gdp-per-capita?time=1750..latest&country=~FRA https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co2-emissions-and-gdp-per... https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co2-emissions-and-gdp-per-capita?time=1750..latest&country=~DEU https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co2-emissions-and-gdp-per... And, apart from a covid blip, generally looks positive for most economies, and France and Germany don't seem much different, despite the differences in their electricity production. Another view on similar data: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co2-intensity?tab=chart&time=1990..latest&country=OWID_WRL~USA~GBR~CHN~DEU~FRA https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co2-intensity?tab=chart&t...

EntrePrescott 4y ago

The fact that the shutdown of nuclear energy in Germany is based on irrational ideological fearmongering and that it's doubly stupid to do so BEFORE having finished building up sufficient renewable energy generation and storage capacity, thus leading, at least temporarily, to a de-facto replacement of a sizeable proportion of the part previously held by nuclear energy with fossil energies like coal that are far more dirty (with CO₂ and other pollutants)… … doesn't in any way change the fact that Germany has indeed been massively investing in renewable energies and has built up enormous capacities in that domain that account for a much higher percentage of renewables in the energy mix than the overwhelming majority of developed countries… and that those early and continuous massive investments by Germany have played a major role in bringing these renewable energies to the much improved viability, maturity and price level they now have. There is no contradiction between those two facts.

HyperSane 4y ago
Shutting down nuclear energy doesn't change the fact of Germany's investment in renewables but it DOES make it pretty pointless. They spent hundreds of billions of dollars to achieve zero reduction in CO2 per kWh.
retinaros 4y ago
renewable energy in a country such as germany need non renewable energy to work when there is no wind or sun. figure out if its better then to have nuclear or coal

ZeroGravitas 4y ago

I prefer GHG emmisions of the entire economy per dollar of GDP, as this doesn't just cherry pick one sector: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co2-emissions-and-gdp-per-capita?time=1750..latest&country=~FRA https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co2-emissions-and-gdp-per... https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co2-emissions-and-gdp-per-capita?time=1750..latest&country=~DEU https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co2-emissions-and-gdp-per... And, apart from a covid blip, generally looks positive for most economies, and France and Germany don't seem much different, despite the differences in their electricity production. Another view on similar data: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co2-intensity?tab=chart&time=1990..latest&country=OWID_WRL~USA~GBR~CHN~DEU~FRA https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co2-intensity?tab=chart&t...