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> The kicker is that some poor bastard was indicted for paying the "consulting" fee! I mean the system works best if people on both sides of the equation are p
by pc86 4y ago
> The kicker is that some poor bastard was indicted for paying the "consulting" fee!
I mean the system works best if people on both sides of the equation are punished, right?
- slavboj 4y agoIt aligns incentives on both sides to keep the scheme secret.
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- rideontime 4y agoOr to report the scheme instead of participating in it?
- tonyarkles 4y agoThis is the real kicker... how do you positively incentivize reporting the scheme instead of participating in it? Generally speaking the upside of participating is quite a bit larger than the upside of reporting. The downside of participating can be made pretty harsh by the government, but there can be negative downsides to reporting as well (e.g. physical harm)
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- jacquesm 4y agoIf you want to keep something secret don't send invoices.
- slavboj 4y agoMoney changing hands without invoices is significantly sketchier and more difficult to accomplish.
- coredog64 4y agoTheoretically, what we want is for it to be illegal to solicit or offer a bribe. If we can construct a legal environment in which people can accept or pay bribes but report that in a constructive way, then the negative side gets riskier without making everyone involved co-conspirators. Practical example: Tuna boats in the Pacific have onboard observers from one of the island nations that own the EEZs that are fished. Observers are paid okay for their countries, but not really a lot of money in the grand scheme of things. It would be a net positive if they could accept a bribe from a crooked boat owner and then report it once on shore. Turn over the money (with maybe keeping a small finders fee) and then that boat’s owner gets penalized across the entire Pacific. Now there’s a very strong incentive not to offer bribes.
- belinder 4y agoAnd now that observer no longer gets invited on any boats
- neilv 4y agoOr invited once more, to swim with the fishes.
- scheme271 4y agoI don't think the observers get an invitation to be on a boat. It's more like, you have been assigned observer X for this trip. They'll be on the boat if you plan on fishing in our waters.
- nofollow 4y agoI think they'd be more worried about the relatively large number of suspicious deaths in that industry increasing: https://www.apo-observers.org/observer-safety/misses/ https://www.apo-observers.org/observer-safety/misses/
- geocar 4y agoOr the bribe is structured in a (recurring) way, such as a regular consulting job so that the observer has something to look forward to.