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> If you can't ever have your thing in the open maybe you shouldn't be having it at all? No matter how many gray hairs you have and how nice your suit is. Nice

> If you can't ever have your thing in the open maybe you shouldn't be having it at all? No matter how many gray hairs you have and how nice your suit is. Nice in theory, but doesn't stand up to basic scrutiny. I have secrets. Hundreds of them. Mostly passwords. And I mostly keep them secret because if I don't, naughty people will take the things I need from me or generally cause chaos for me and my family. You're absolutely right that young people are more likely to question traditional narratives, but they are less likely to have the context (or apply it, anyway) necessary to form a coherent narrative in its place, which will often lead you to at least some variation on a traditional narrative. I think where young people often do good by questioning authority is when a traditional narrative used to apply but in recent history no longer does for some reason or another. If you're an old, you've likely already mentally examined some idea or process and found it to be sound, and now you're less likely to come back and question it later. Young people come along later and question it and find it to not be sound anymore, and the olds realize they might be right. For most other things... You don't have to be young to smell the bullshit.

scotty79 4y ago
Those are secrets because only you know them. And that's fine. What's not fine is that you could have organisational shared secret in this day and age that won't ever leak. That's dumb fantasy and attempts at making it real are laughable and should have holes poked into them. > You're absolutely right that young people are more likely to question traditional narratives, but they are less likely to have the context (or apply it, anyway) necessary to form a coherent narrative in its place, which will often lead you to at least some variation on a traditional narrative. How strongly narratives affected people historically is downright frightning. Millions have died because of philosophers. I hope that in the future humanity will gain much more relislience toward narratives just by tearing them apart and restiching in chaotic competeing manners. I hope LLMs will help with that by examplifying how easy it is to produce any bs narrative that even hunk of silicon can do it. I hope people who grow up in this environment will no longer be able to be cheated by single bs narrative for decades of their life. > For most other things... You don't have to be young to smell the bullshit. The fact you can smell it doesn't matter you'll have audacity to complain about the smell or imagine a world without this smell or even find that smell bad enough to get off the couch.

scotty79 4y ago

Those are secrets because only you know them. And that's fine. What's not fine is that you could have organisational shared secret in this day and age that won't ever leak. That's dumb fantasy and attempts at making it real are laughable and should have holes poked into them. > You're absolutely right that young people are more likely to question traditional narratives, but they are less likely to have the context (or apply it, anyway) necessary to form a coherent narrative in its place, which will often lead you to at least some variation on a traditional narrative. How strongly narratives affected people historically is downright frightning. Millions have died because of philosophers. I hope that in the future humanity will gain much more relislience toward narratives just by tearing them apart and restiching in chaotic competeing manners. I hope LLMs will help with that by examplifying how easy it is to produce any bs narrative that even hunk of silicon can do it. I hope people who grow up in this environment will no longer be able to be cheated by single bs narrative for decades of their life. > For most other things... You don't have to be young to smell the bullshit. The fact you can smell it doesn't matter you'll have audacity to complain about the smell or imagine a world without this smell or even find that smell bad enough to get off the couch.