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Then they would have to consider what beliefs said knob held that are red flags and that is a much bigger problem.

dmix 4y ago
? His motivations were pretty modest. This wasn't some ideological thing as far as we know. The only thing that could resemble a red flag was one of the discord people described him as anti-war, while working for the military. A pretty normal position for a 20yr old though.
- davidgerard 4y ago
  he was literally a neo-Nazi, OP
  - dmix 4y ago
    I must have missed that.
  - lolinder 4y ago
    Citation? What I've seen is that he probably leaked the documents to impress his friends and was racist. Not every racist is a neonazi, though, so if you have other information I'd love to see it.
    - stametseater 4y ago
      In common American parlance, "nazi" is becoming a slur for any racist/sexist/*ist/*phobe, and doesn't refer specifically to those with interest or sympathy for/with Nazi Germany.
      - lolinder 4y ago
        That may be how some people use it, but that doesn't mean we should put up with that usage. The Nazis slaughtered millions of people because of their ethnicity/religion/sexual orientation/what have you. To use that word to describe an immature group of friends who say racist things because they think it's edgy waters down the meaning of a very powerful word in a way that severely harms public discourse. If we're going to use the phrase "literally a neo-Nazi", I want to see swastikas or tattoos or something other than garden-variety hooliganism.
- thebooktocome 4y ago
  Plenty of usmil enlisted are anti-war. They’re the ones with skin in the game, after all.
- Izkata 4y ago
  20 years ago there were recruiters at my school bribing us to join because they'd pay 100% of our college tuition. Assuming they're still doing that, with costs going up I can imagine more people taking them up on it despite their viewpoints.
scythe 4y ago
The story I've heard is that he leaked the documents to win an argument. He doesn't even appear to have seriously considered that they would travel far beyond his little Discord friend group. Of course, I could have misheard.
ilyt 4y ago
No, they should probably just not have access in the first place. Like having files encrypted with keys of only people that coudl access it or something

dmix 4y ago

? His motivations were pretty modest. This wasn't some ideological thing as far as we know. The only thing that could resemble a red flag was one of the discord people described him as anti-war, while working for the military. A pretty normal position for a 20yr old though.

davidgerard 4y ago
he was literally a neo-Nazi, OP
- dmix 4y ago
  I must have missed that.
- lolinder 4y ago
  Citation? What I've seen is that he probably leaked the documents to impress his friends and was racist. Not every racist is a neonazi, though, so if you have other information I'd love to see it.
  - stametseater 4y ago
    In common American parlance, "nazi" is becoming a slur for any racist/sexist/*ist/*phobe, and doesn't refer specifically to those with interest or sympathy for/with Nazi Germany.
    - lolinder 4y ago
      That may be how some people use it, but that doesn't mean we should put up with that usage. The Nazis slaughtered millions of people because of their ethnicity/religion/sexual orientation/what have you. To use that word to describe an immature group of friends who say racist things because they think it's edgy waters down the meaning of a very powerful word in a way that severely harms public discourse. If we're going to use the phrase "literally a neo-Nazi", I want to see swastikas or tattoos or something other than garden-variety hooliganism.
thebooktocome 4y ago
Plenty of usmil enlisted are anti-war. They’re the ones with skin in the game, after all.
Izkata 4y ago
20 years ago there were recruiters at my school bribing us to join because they'd pay 100% of our college tuition. Assuming they're still doing that, with costs going up I can imagine more people taking them up on it despite their viewpoints.

scythe 4y ago

The story I've heard is that he leaked the documents to win an argument. He doesn't even appear to have seriously considered that they would travel far beyond his little Discord friend group. Of course, I could have misheard.

ilyt 4y ago

No, they should probably just not have access in the first place. Like having files encrypted with keys of only people that coudl access it or something