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A few effective counter examples I can think of, off the top of my head: - the Apple Shortcuts scripting framework built into iOS 16 and above, - gnuradio - a

A few effective counter examples I can think of, off the top of my head: - the Apple Shortcuts scripting framework built into iOS 16 and above, - gnuradio - a block based signal processing environment for software defined radio - Scratch - the learn-to-code block language that’s evolved into its own programming environment I suppose you could call these programs’ no-code premise “a lie” based on the premise that all of them have text based code under the hood. But I also realize you can rebut that pretty easily by saying that the graphical flows can address a lot of custom functionality required by their user bases. Speaks to me of those programs solving problems with a relatively well defined set of constraints. I wouldn’t describe current web apps, and the rich frontend functionality required, as meeting the criterion of having a “well defined set of constraints”.

flir 4y ago
I think you can add IFTTT to your list (https://ifttt.com/ https://ifttt.com/). Maybe Yahoo Pipes too.
- cushychicken 4y ago
  Never used either of them myself, but a cursory inspection suggests they fit the paradigm I’m talking about.
wizzwizz4 4y ago
Apple Shortcuts is just rubbish shell scripts with an excellent GUI. Scratch is certainly a programming language: it even has a textual representation. https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Block_Plugin/Syntax https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Block_Plugin/Syntax. I haven't used GNU Radio. Some of these "no-code" systems aren't programming languages, but the examples you've given are definitely programming languages. They've even got their own Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_programming_language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_programming_language) which lists GNU Radio (though it also says behaviour trees are programming languages, so I'd take it with a pinch of salt).
- cushychicken 4y ago
  All sounds pretty low code to me, bro. shrug

flir 4y ago

I think you can add IFTTT to your list (https://ifttt.com/ https://ifttt.com/). Maybe Yahoo Pipes too.

cushychicken 4y ago
Never used either of them myself, but a cursory inspection suggests they fit the paradigm I’m talking about.

wizzwizz4 4y ago

Apple Shortcuts is just rubbish shell scripts with an excellent GUI. Scratch is certainly a programming language: it even has a textual representation. https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Block_Plugin/Syntax https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Block_Plugin/Syntax. I haven't used GNU Radio. Some of these "no-code" systems aren't programming languages, but the examples you've given are definitely programming languages. They've even got their own Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_programming_language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_programming_language) which lists GNU Radio (though it also says behaviour trees are programming languages, so I'd take it with a pinch of salt).

cushychicken 4y ago
All sounds pretty low code to me, bro. shrug