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This law is a failure waiting to happen. First off, what about all the folks in Montana who already have TikTok? Will Montana State Troopers be setting up roa
by nobody9999 4y ago
This law is a failure waiting to happen.
First off, what about all the folks in Montana who already have TikTok?
Will Montana State Troopers be setting up roadblocks to check people's phones, then going house to house to do the same?
And when it comes to stuff like this, kids aren't stupid. If they can't gain access to a VPN providing an IP address outside Montana, they'll just message someone they know from out of state with something like "email me the .apk for Tiktok" or have someone put it up on some site outside Montana, preferably outside the US.
I'd also expect that numerous scam/malware/other evil sites will pop up offering "the TikTok app," which of course will either be the app laden with malware/backdoors/RATs, or just the latter claiming to be the app.
Nothing good will come of this.
That's not to say I'm a fan of TikTok. I'm not. But the whole premise of laws like this are that the evil Chinese government is going to steal your childrens' souls (okay not their souls, but lots of data and PII) to be used as a weapon to destroy our nation, one short video at a time.
But the truth is that all the spying scumbags^W^W Social media like Google, Facebook, Instagram, etc. are doing all of what TikTok is, and maybe even more.
This is performative jingoism masquerading as "safety." Want to stop this hoovering up of data? Pass national legislation blocking all these peeping Toms from collecting this information at all.
Who's running Montana, the Keystone Kops[0]?
Edit: fixed prose. Used the correct term for "social media".
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Cops https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Cops
Edit: Added link to explain who the "Keystone Kops" might be for those unaware of their (fictional) existence.
- nailer 4y ago> First off, what about all the folks in Montana who already have TikTok? The ban is silly, but I’d have Apple and Google remove the app for all users with a billing address in Montana.
- nobody9999 4y ago>The ban is silly, but I’d have Apple and Google remove the app for all users with a billing address in Montana. I've never heard a better rationale for not using Apple products or a "Googled" Android device[0]. That it's even possible for Apple/Google Play to do something like that (although I'm not so sure they'd do so -- and I'm not so sure they could be forced to either -- but IANAL) is horrific overreach and definitely reason for stabbing people in the eye[3] I own my device. I paid for it. It is mine. I will put whatever the hell I want on it. [0] LineageOS[1] with F-Droid[2]? [1] https://lineageos.org/ https://lineageos.org/ [2] https://f-droid.org/ https://f-droid.org/ [3] I'm being (mostly) metaphorical here.
- wanderingmind 4y agoI suggest microg+lineageos with FDroid and Aurora, for the reason many apps need google play services to function
- nailer 4y agoSorry. General purpose computing is legacy tech now - even your desktop has a second OS install (Minix inside IME) that you don’t have access to. RMS was right, but nobody listened.
- hellojesus 4y agoLots of false positives if you do that. What happens if you're on a shared plan, and the only resident of Montana is the primary bill-to person?
- nailer 4y agoYep, but it’s Google, they won’t care.
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- gbromios 4y agowhat a bizarre reading...
- nobody9999 4y ago[flagged]
- dang 4y agoYou can't attack others like this on HN, regardless of how provocative another comment was or you feel it was. We ban accounts that do so, for what should be obvious reasons. I'm not going to ban you right now because everyone gets activated sometimes and it doesn't look like you've been breaking the site guidelines recently (at least not from a quick skim I just did). But please don't do this again! and please avoid flamewars generally—we've had to ask you that at least once before (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33924578 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33924578). If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
- nobody9999 4y ago>You can't attack others like this on HN, regardless of how provocative another comment was or you feel it was. We ban accounts that do so, for what should be obvious reasons. I know. Hence the addendum to my comment. As I said there: "I screwed up. I will try to do better in the future." My apologies for wasting your time.
- dang 4y agoOh sorry—I totally missed that part. Thanks for the clarifying response.
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- zeroonetwothree 4y agoIf you read the bill it answers all your questions.