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ChatGPT is AN answer as how to create AI. Simple as that. It works as a natural language parser that works the same as human. It is the holy grail that NLP c

ChatGPT is AN answer as how to create AI. Simple as that. It works as a natural language parser that works the same as human. It is the holy grail that NLP community trying to find, one mechanism that can be commanded by plain English. If it can program, then it can drive cars. Driving is inherently a low level task comparing to programming, hundreds of millions Americans can drive, far fewer can program. But ChatGPT is just blind at the moment. Next step is to make it see, and walk and use its fingers. Won't be too far away in the future.

mdp2021 4y ago
> works the same as human Very certainly not, until you show that it has reflection - critical thinking -, which has many times shown not to have. > Simple as that As already expressed, you cannot just dump personal positions "porque [t]e sale de l'alma" (Borges).
- chaxor 4y ago
  Reflexion*
  - mdp2021 4y ago
    Thanks! It brings us to some checks. But I read > Spelling with -ct- recorded from late 14c., established 18c., by influence of the verb. OED considers the version with -x- to be "the etymological spelling", but Fowler (1926 - «A clear differentiation being out of the question, and the variation of form being without essential significance...») points out that -ct- is usual in the general senses and even technical ones Actually, I would say that 'reflection' is the more proper. 'Reflexion' reflects the French spelling, so it is "«etymological»" in the sense of "post-Hastings 1066" (i.e. tracing the history), but in Latin it is 'flectere' (hence 're-flectere'). "Flectere" is already an action, so "reflection" is proper for the faculty.
    - chaxor 4y ago
      Sorry, this was meant to be a semi-sarcastic reference to the paper by Northeastern. They use "Reflexion" in the title. It's a paper about how these systems improve their responses by simply allowing their outputs to be 'reflected upon' by the system. For instance, they are able to improve something like ~60% to ~87% by simply allowing the 'reflection' upon what was just output.
- brookst 4y ago
  "Same way" can mean "using the same principles", in addition to "identical in all ways" For instance, shirts and parkas work the same way (trapping warm air near the skin), but have radically different capabilities.
  - mdp2021 4y ago
    > using the same principles That is exactly what should be proven, if one dreamt of proposing that. Especially because the "guess the next" mechanism is risking to become a gnoseological functional paradigm after the past few months, as if a theory of the mind. Which is more than an issue, because automation of thought (acritical repetition) is directly satanic.
    - brookst 4y ago
      My point was that the fact human brains are much more capable does not falsify the idea that they work the same way as these transformer style LLMS. It might be we're special or substantively different. Or it might not. The fact we have additional capabilities just means we are not exactly the same as e.g. Gpt4 in all ways.

mdp2021 4y ago

> works the same as human Very certainly not, until you show that it has reflection - critical thinking -, which has many times shown not to have. > Simple as that As already expressed, you cannot just dump personal positions "porque [t]e sale de l'alma" (Borges).

chaxor 4y ago
Reflexion*
- mdp2021 4y ago
  Thanks! It brings us to some checks. But I read > Spelling with -ct- recorded from late 14c., established 18c., by influence of the verb. OED considers the version with -x- to be "the etymological spelling", but Fowler (1926 - «A clear differentiation being out of the question, and the variation of form being without essential significance...») points out that -ct- is usual in the general senses and even technical ones Actually, I would say that 'reflection' is the more proper. 'Reflexion' reflects the French spelling, so it is "«etymological»" in the sense of "post-Hastings 1066" (i.e. tracing the history), but in Latin it is 'flectere' (hence 're-flectere'). "Flectere" is already an action, so "reflection" is proper for the faculty.
  - chaxor 4y ago
    Sorry, this was meant to be a semi-sarcastic reference to the paper by Northeastern. They use "Reflexion" in the title. It's a paper about how these systems improve their responses by simply allowing their outputs to be 'reflected upon' by the system. For instance, they are able to improve something like ~60% to ~87% by simply allowing the 'reflection' upon what was just output.
brookst 4y ago
"Same way" can mean "using the same principles", in addition to "identical in all ways" For instance, shirts and parkas work the same way (trapping warm air near the skin), but have radically different capabilities.
- mdp2021 4y ago
  > using the same principles That is exactly what should be proven, if one dreamt of proposing that. Especially because the "guess the next" mechanism is risking to become a gnoseological functional paradigm after the past few months, as if a theory of the mind. Which is more than an issue, because automation of thought (acritical repetition) is directly satanic.
  - brookst 4y ago
    My point was that the fact human brains are much more capable does not falsify the idea that they work the same way as these transformer style LLMS. It might be we're special or substantively different. Or it might not. The fact we have additional capabilities just means we are not exactly the same as e.g. Gpt4 in all ways.