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But the company who made this is also making the technologies in the project... Holepunchto is the company behind hyperprotocol, hypershell, hyperdrive, etc.

But the company who made this is also making the technologies in the project... Holepunchto is the company behind hyperprotocol, hypershell, hyperdrive, etc. So what's the lesson now?

throwaway290 3y ago
That maybe they should find a new intern to do naming before they go and make the fourth HyperApp out there? One who could at least google first...
- MrOwnPut 3y ago
  Read the rest of the thread. Maybe HyperApp should trademark hyper, oh wait they weren't before hypertext/protocol and HN doesn't like copyright :) I guess we would look at who was "first", but do you know who was? Or is it a weight of first and most popular? How is "popular" determined? Oh dang, this is getting tricky isn't it?
  - throwaway290 3y ago
    Reread the thread starter. All those preexisting hyper things have nothing to do with this company, that's not the point. And of course they're free to name their stuff after anything else they like, it's not a tricky question, it's just... weird? stupid? seo-manipulative? I don't know honestly, all I know is they had a more descriptive name at their disposal that had zero hits and they they passed on it.
    - MrOwnPut 3y ago
      What is your point? How many uses of a prefix can the industry have before it meets your requirement of having to move on? 1, 2, 3, 5? IMO people can name things whatever they want and can legally and people will remember whatever they need to.
      - throwaway290 3y ago
        > what's your point I already said, they had a perfectly descriptive name but they chose the one easily confusable with 5 other things, I am curious to know their thought process. And what's yours?
        MrOwnPut 3y ago
        Hyper is their protocol and I assumed they derived it from HTTP. > Hypercore also includes a new URL scheme, hyper://, for referencing any Hypercore-based data structure. As Hypercores declare their data structure, this URL scheme can be used for a wide variety of use-cases. This URL scheme can improve interoperability among applications by providing flexible and modular access to hypercore directly. All of their technology is based off of their hyper protocol. But my point is that I don't really see the need to nazi people's nomenclature. You could just, ya'know, discuss the tech itself...
        throwaway290 3y ago
        > All of their technology is based off of their hyper protocol. And that for some reason determines naming every product that uses that protocol. > nazi There's no need to be a nazi, but it should be an acceptable thing to ask, when identifier namespace is global, about why someone would choose to occupy an overlapping identifier even if a better more descriptive identifier is available, shouldn't it?
    - bryanrasmussen 3y ago
      wouldn't choosing the name with zero other hits be the seo-manipulative option?
      - throwaway290 3y ago
        If you take a preexisting name you get some search traffic for free, though I doubt that's what's happening here.

But the company who made this is also making the technologies in the project... Holepunchto is the company behind hyperprotocol, hypershell, hyperdrive, etc. So what's the lesson now?

throwaway290 3y ago

That maybe they should find a new intern to do naming before they go and make the fourth HyperApp out there? One who could at least google first...

MrOwnPut 3y ago
Read the rest of the thread. Maybe HyperApp should trademark hyper, oh wait they weren't before hypertext/protocol and HN doesn't like copyright :) I guess we would look at who was "first", but do you know who was? Or is it a weight of first and most popular? How is "popular" determined? Oh dang, this is getting tricky isn't it?
- throwaway290 3y ago
  Reread the thread starter. All those preexisting hyper things have nothing to do with this company, that's not the point. And of course they're free to name their stuff after anything else they like, it's not a tricky question, it's just... weird? stupid? seo-manipulative? I don't know honestly, all I know is they had a more descriptive name at their disposal that had zero hits and they they passed on it.
  - MrOwnPut 3y ago
    What is your point? How many uses of a prefix can the industry have before it meets your requirement of having to move on? 1, 2, 3, 5? IMO people can name things whatever they want and can legally and people will remember whatever they need to.
    - throwaway290 3y ago
      > what's your point I already said, they had a perfectly descriptive name but they chose the one easily confusable with 5 other things, I am curious to know their thought process. And what's yours?
      - MrOwnPut 3y ago
        Hyper is their protocol and I assumed they derived it from HTTP. > Hypercore also includes a new URL scheme, hyper://, for referencing any Hypercore-based data structure. As Hypercores declare their data structure, this URL scheme can be used for a wide variety of use-cases. This URL scheme can improve interoperability among applications by providing flexible and modular access to hypercore directly. All of their technology is based off of their hyper protocol. But my point is that I don't really see the need to nazi people's nomenclature. You could just, ya'know, discuss the tech itself...
        throwaway290 3y ago
        > All of their technology is based off of their hyper protocol. And that for some reason determines naming every product that uses that protocol. > nazi There's no need to be a nazi, but it should be an acceptable thing to ask, when identifier namespace is global, about why someone would choose to occupy an overlapping identifier even if a better more descriptive identifier is available, shouldn't it?
  - bryanrasmussen 3y ago
    wouldn't choosing the name with zero other hits be the seo-manipulative option?
    - throwaway290 3y ago
      If you take a preexisting name you get some search traffic for free, though I doubt that's what's happening here.