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> The cause could have been (with equal evidence for each case) aliens, mossad, or a cooking accident, but people were quick to project their biases onto the si

> The cause could have been (with equal evidence for each case) aliens, mossad, or a cooking accident, but people were quick to project their biases onto the situation and jump into flamewars or political attacks based on literally no information other than a man having died. I’m going to push back on that. 70-80% of homicides in the US are committed by offenders known to the victims, with the small minority committed by strangers. People here are smart enough to know that and yet still pushed the "crazy homeless killer due to liberal policy" false narrative. That’s the problem.

zen_1 4y ago
I'm not sure I follow. So since ninety something percent of murders are committed by men aged 14-40 (not the real statistic, I'm going off of memory here) do you think we should assume with no evidence that any random murder was done by somebody from that demographic?
- rovolo 4y ago
  > The cause could have been (with equal evidence for each case) aliens ... people were quick to project their biases onto the situation It would indicate a specific kind of commenter bias if, lacking any evidence, most comments on the original thread were about alien abductions and cow mutilations. Saying that it's weird that so many people talked about aliens doesn't necessarily mean we should suspect a human. Noting that we know a lot of murders were conducted by humans would be evidence that it was even weirder that there were so many comments about aliens.
- sammalloy 4y ago
  I think you follow me just fine. We know that men commit most of these types of crimes, we know they are usually younger than 40, and we know that in the majority of cases, they are already acquainted with the victim. We also know the murder rate in Rincon Hill was zero before this happened, lending weight to the relationship between the victim and the offender. The tech narrative that blames liberal SF policies for crime were well underway before this crime occurred.

zen_1 4y ago

I'm not sure I follow. So since ninety something percent of murders are committed by men aged 14-40 (not the real statistic, I'm going off of memory here) do you think we should assume with no evidence that any random murder was done by somebody from that demographic?

rovolo 4y ago
> The cause could have been (with equal evidence for each case) aliens ... people were quick to project their biases onto the situation It would indicate a specific kind of commenter bias if, lacking any evidence, most comments on the original thread were about alien abductions and cow mutilations. Saying that it's weird that so many people talked about aliens doesn't necessarily mean we should suspect a human. Noting that we know a lot of murders were conducted by humans would be evidence that it was even weirder that there were so many comments about aliens.
sammalloy 4y ago
I think you follow me just fine. We know that men commit most of these types of crimes, we know they are usually younger than 40, and we know that in the majority of cases, they are already acquainted with the victim. We also know the murder rate in Rincon Hill was zero before this happened, lending weight to the relationship between the victim and the offender. The tech narrative that blames liberal SF policies for crime were well underway before this crime occurred.