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The people (and even military personnel) of the United States wouldn't have tolerated capriciously dropping atomic bombs on Moscow three years after we helped t

The people (and even military personnel) of the United States wouldn't have tolerated capriciously dropping atomic bombs on Moscow three years after we helped them defeat the Nazis. But perhaps something in the nature of AGI will allow its "discoverers" to act more unilaterally evil and with fewer fetters. An army of amoral robots would certainly remove a lot of checks on certain kinds of behavior.

woeirua 4y ago
Not sure I would take that lesson away from history. There were quite a few voices in the US military at the end of WW2 that recognized that peace with the soviets was tenuous at best and wanted to push the nuclear advantage right then. The US was unmatched for 4 years until the Soviets had their first nuclear test. Had they chose to use nuclear weapons, they could have become a global empire and no one could have stopped them.
- SergeAx 4y ago
  US didn't need nukes to obliterate USSR in 1945. Just cut it off the lend-lease program and attack on European and Pacific theaters at the same time. They didn't do it because US public won't tolerate attack on yesterday's ally against Hitler.
  - VagueMag 4y ago
    After decades of propaganda on both sides, the period just after World War II where the Western/NATO countries and the Soviet Union both enjoyed very high rates of affection for one another are now totally unknown and alien to people.
    - ChatGTP 4y ago
      Sounds like such a beautiful time. I hope to see it again someday.
TrapLord_Rhodo 4y ago
General Patton and a ton of other military generals wanted to invade Russia. The way Russia treated it's army, prisoners of war, the ideological differences and many other factors led to a potential alternate history where the US invades Russia after WW2.
- VagueMag 4y ago
  It wasn't just Patton, there were a lot of other psychotic generals high up in the U.S. command structure like Curtis LeMay (inspiration for Jack D. Ripper) who wanted to go fully off leash in fighting communism, use nukes in Korea, etc. In the end we did use biological weapons and kill 5% of North Korea's civilian population, so one could argue that besides "no nukes" there wasn't all that much restraint in the end after all.

woeirua 4y ago

Not sure I would take that lesson away from history. There were quite a few voices in the US military at the end of WW2 that recognized that peace with the soviets was tenuous at best and wanted to push the nuclear advantage right then. The US was unmatched for 4 years until the Soviets had their first nuclear test. Had they chose to use nuclear weapons, they could have become a global empire and no one could have stopped them.

SergeAx 4y ago
US didn't need nukes to obliterate USSR in 1945. Just cut it off the lend-lease program and attack on European and Pacific theaters at the same time. They didn't do it because US public won't tolerate attack on yesterday's ally against Hitler.
- VagueMag 4y ago
  After decades of propaganda on both sides, the period just after World War II where the Western/NATO countries and the Soviet Union both enjoyed very high rates of affection for one another are now totally unknown and alien to people.
  - ChatGTP 4y ago
    Sounds like such a beautiful time. I hope to see it again someday.

TrapLord_Rhodo 4y ago

General Patton and a ton of other military generals wanted to invade Russia. The way Russia treated it's army, prisoners of war, the ideological differences and many other factors led to a potential alternate history where the US invades Russia after WW2.

VagueMag 4y ago
It wasn't just Patton, there were a lot of other psychotic generals high up in the U.S. command structure like Curtis LeMay (inspiration for Jack D. Ripper) who wanted to go fully off leash in fighting communism, use nukes in Korea, etc. In the end we did use biological weapons and kill 5% of North Korea's civilian population, so one could argue that besides "no nukes" there wasn't all that much restraint in the end after all.