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Do you mean export

by homero 4y ago

Do you mean export

dylan604 4y ago
Probably not, since DJI is a Chinese company. Don't really think we can ban their export. Oh as much as the US would love to have that kind of control. All it can realistically do is ban what can be imported into its own borders.
- jpgvm 4y ago
  and exported from allies countries. Hence the whole hullabaloo around semiconductors right now. Makes you wonder what they threaten the Dutch and Japanese with to get them to comply against their better interests though.
  - bioemerl 4y ago
    It is not in the better interest of the Dutch or the Japanese to enable China to take over the chip production market. In this case the Dutch and the Japanese would both be incredible losers as China backs Russian invasion in Europe and the invasion of Taiwan. You're spreading a propaganda narrative, one designed to try to convince those who are Dutch or Japanese to act against their better interest in order to enable China to grow more powerful.
    - jpgvm 4y ago
      The status quo was much more beneficial for each of these nations. They got to maintain a leading edge in their respective parts of the supply chain and China kept growing as a customer and buying more. Essentially what will happen now is China will never buy from these nations when they become self-sufficient. The sanctions are willing state-backed Chinese competitors for all of these companies into existence where there either was none before or they weren't competitive. That will all change now, within a decade or so China will have caught up and now you will have an absolute powerhouse that is fully self-sufficient. Essentially the US and her allies traded a situation where they could perpetually keep China a generation behind for a situation where China might fall behind pretty rapidly for a few years but will roar back and likely be more competitive than they have ever been. I fail to see how this isn't against the interests of the Dutch, Japanese or for that matter the South Koreans and Taiwanese.
      - bioemerl 3y ago
        > They got to maintain a leading edge in their respective parts of the supply chain and China Long term mutually beneficial relationships with China are massive lies and they will slowly steal any tech you sell them until you're rendered obsolete.

Do you mean export

by homero 4y ago

Do you mean export

Probably not, since DJI is a Chinese company. Don't really think we can ban their export. Oh as much as the US would love to have that kind of control. All it can realistically do is ban what can be imported into its own borders.

jpgvm 4y ago
and exported from allies countries. Hence the whole hullabaloo around semiconductors right now. Makes you wonder what they threaten the Dutch and Japanese with to get them to comply against their better interests though.
- bioemerl 4y ago
  It is not in the better interest of the Dutch or the Japanese to enable China to take over the chip production market. In this case the Dutch and the Japanese would both be incredible losers as China backs Russian invasion in Europe and the invasion of Taiwan. You're spreading a propaganda narrative, one designed to try to convince those who are Dutch or Japanese to act against their better interest in order to enable China to grow more powerful.
  - jpgvm 4y ago
    The status quo was much more beneficial for each of these nations. They got to maintain a leading edge in their respective parts of the supply chain and China kept growing as a customer and buying more. Essentially what will happen now is China will never buy from these nations when they become self-sufficient. The sanctions are willing state-backed Chinese competitors for all of these companies into existence where there either was none before or they weren't competitive. That will all change now, within a decade or so China will have caught up and now you will have an absolute powerhouse that is fully self-sufficient. Essentially the US and her allies traded a situation where they could perpetually keep China a generation behind for a situation where China might fall behind pretty rapidly for a few years but will roar back and likely be more competitive than they have ever been. I fail to see how this isn't against the interests of the Dutch, Japanese or for that matter the South Koreans and Taiwanese.
    - bioemerl 3y ago
      > They got to maintain a leading edge in their respective parts of the supply chain and China Long term mutually beneficial relationships with China are massive lies and they will slowly steal any tech you sell them until you're rendered obsolete.