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I wonder if you could head over to Matamoros and give a fisherman $50 to take you out on the water. The launch tower is maybe 500yds from the beach.

philwelch 4y ago
Probably a bad idea. Rocket launches tend to have exclusion zones for sea traffic and they will scrub the launch if some boat wanders into the area, and speaking as someone who likes to watch rocket launches on stream, I’m confident in saying that lots of people will be mad at you for doing this. Edit: Oh, you said Matamoros, which is in Mexico and presumably out of the FAA's jurisdiction. Everyday Astronaut seems to think Matamoros is one of the more dangerous parts of Mexico[1] but I'm not one to talk anyone out of adventure travel. Just be wise to what you're getting yourself into.[2] [1] https://everydayastronaut.com/how-to-visit-starbase https://everydayastronaut.com/how-to-visit-starbase [2] https://www.reuters.com/world/us/mexican-cartel-says-sorry-attack-americans-serves-up-five-suspects-2023-03-09/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/mexican-cartel-says-sorry-a...
- cozzyd 4y ago
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mlindner 4y ago
That area is restricted during launch. If you head out there you'd end up canceling/delaying the launch. https://twitter.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1647001557211160579 https://twitter.com/johnkrausphotos/status/16470015572111605...
stetrain 4y ago
There is a marine exclusion zone: https://twitter.com/VisitBocaChica/status/1646938322189557760?t=QoeoD1kh7gtJsYUb6v0dog&s=19 https://twitter.com/VisitBocaChica/status/164693832218955776...
- rektide 4y ago
  Looks like you can get like half a mile north or south (based off some crude eyeballing) & be out of the easterly-directed exclusion zone. I have no clue how that compares to where people can be on land to watch, how far up rt 4 people are allowed. It seems like it might be a good option. Also the launch should pivot & head out more your-a-way too, which could be cool.
  - stetrain 4y ago
    https://twitter.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1647001557211160579/photo/1 https://twitter.com/johnkrausphotos/status/16470015572111605... The green areas are the closest you can get by boat. Which is basically just as close as viewing from South Padre Island. You might have a slightly less obstructed or crowded view from a boat versus parking and standing with everyone else on South Padre.
    - rektide 4y ago
      I'm surprised how greatly this differs from the marine exclusion zone that Boca Chica posted.
- AdamJacobMuller 4y ago
  This reads a lot more optional than a NOTAM. I'm not saying it's a good idea, but, i think if you're sufficiently motivated you can still go inside the exclusion zone.
  - stetrain 4y ago
    Boats in the exclusion zone can and have caused launches to scrub. I can't speak as to whether you will face legal consequences, but there may not be a launch to watch if you violate the safety perimeter.
myself248 4y ago
"Wayward boat" is the term for when someone does this and they're forced to scrub the launch as a result. Please don't.
throwawayapples 4y ago
Matamoros is INSANELY dangerous. It is impossible to overstate that.
- rurban 4y ago
  But the best (only) surf in Texas
  - throwawayapples 4y ago
    Matamoros is.. not in Texas? The Texas side of the border is way safer than Matamoros.
s1artibartfast 4y ago
I had a similar thought about watching it crash down into the Pacific off of Hawaii. If it makes it that far, they plan to sink it in a naval graveyard about 50 miles north of the island. Watching it attempt to soft landing and then sink below the waves would be remarkable
- eco 4y ago
  This second stage is going to slam into the water at terminal velocity (per FAA filing). No mock landing flip and burn. The two after will break up on re-entry (no "wings", people suspect they are for payload or propellant transfer tests). The booster, however, will do a mock landing over the water a ways out from the launch facilities (40 miles I think it was).
  - martyvis 4y ago
    I imagine because of ITAR etc they particularly want to have very little to be able to recovered by foreign parties.

philwelch 4y ago

Probably a bad idea. Rocket launches tend to have exclusion zones for sea traffic and they will scrub the launch if some boat wanders into the area, and speaking as someone who likes to watch rocket launches on stream, I’m confident in saying that lots of people will be mad at you for doing this. Edit: Oh, you said Matamoros, which is in Mexico and presumably out of the FAA's jurisdiction. Everyday Astronaut seems to think Matamoros is one of the more dangerous parts of Mexico[1] but I'm not one to talk anyone out of adventure travel. Just be wise to what you're getting yourself into.[2] [1] https://everydayastronaut.com/how-to-visit-starbase https://everydayastronaut.com/how-to-visit-starbase [2] https://www.reuters.com/world/us/mexican-cartel-says-sorry-attack-americans-serves-up-five-suspects-2023-03-09/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/mexican-cartel-says-sorry-a...

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mlindner 4y ago

That area is restricted during launch. If you head out there you'd end up canceling/delaying the launch. https://twitter.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1647001557211160579 https://twitter.com/johnkrausphotos/status/16470015572111605...

stetrain 4y ago

There is a marine exclusion zone: https://twitter.com/VisitBocaChica/status/1646938322189557760?t=QoeoD1kh7gtJsYUb6v0dog&s=19 https://twitter.com/VisitBocaChica/status/164693832218955776...

rektide 4y ago
Looks like you can get like half a mile north or south (based off some crude eyeballing) & be out of the easterly-directed exclusion zone. I have no clue how that compares to where people can be on land to watch, how far up rt 4 people are allowed. It seems like it might be a good option. Also the launch should pivot & head out more your-a-way too, which could be cool.
- stetrain 4y ago
  https://twitter.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1647001557211160579/photo/1 https://twitter.com/johnkrausphotos/status/16470015572111605... The green areas are the closest you can get by boat. Which is basically just as close as viewing from South Padre Island. You might have a slightly less obstructed or crowded view from a boat versus parking and standing with everyone else on South Padre.
  - rektide 4y ago
    I'm surprised how greatly this differs from the marine exclusion zone that Boca Chica posted.
AdamJacobMuller 4y ago
This reads a lot more optional than a NOTAM. I'm not saying it's a good idea, but, i think if you're sufficiently motivated you can still go inside the exclusion zone.
- stetrain 4y ago
  Boats in the exclusion zone can and have caused launches to scrub. I can't speak as to whether you will face legal consequences, but there may not be a launch to watch if you violate the safety perimeter.

myself248 4y ago

"Wayward boat" is the term for when someone does this and they're forced to scrub the launch as a result. Please don't.

throwawayapples 4y ago

Matamoros is INSANELY dangerous. It is impossible to overstate that.

rurban 4y ago
But the best (only) surf in Texas
- throwawayapples 4y ago
  Matamoros is.. not in Texas? The Texas side of the border is way safer than Matamoros.

s1artibartfast 4y ago

I had a similar thought about watching it crash down into the Pacific off of Hawaii. If it makes it that far, they plan to sink it in a naval graveyard about 50 miles north of the island. Watching it attempt to soft landing and then sink below the waves would be remarkable

eco 4y ago
This second stage is going to slam into the water at terminal velocity (per FAA filing). No mock landing flip and burn. The two after will break up on re-entry (no "wings", people suspect they are for payload or propellant transfer tests). The booster, however, will do a mock landing over the water a ways out from the launch facilities (40 miles I think it was).
- martyvis 4y ago
  I imagine because of ITAR etc they particularly want to have very little to be able to recovered by foreign parties.