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I’m surprised to see it that low. Downtown SF is pretty dead. As an introvert looking for some quiet time I head into the office with an open floor plan to not

by idoh 3y ago

I’m surprised to see it that low. Downtown SF is pretty dead. As an introvert looking for some quiet time I head into the office with an open floor plan to not see people while I work.

vkou 3y ago
A 100-person office that has one introvert coming into it every day because they are looking for some quiet time is not considered 'vacant' by this statistic.
- Covzire 3y ago
  So the per-desk vacancy, if such a thing were tracked, might be much higher than 33%?
  - nemomarx 3y ago
    The proper way to track it would be traffic in the commute hours and spending on lunches and so on during the work day, I suppose? Isn't that what cities are measuring and looking at with this return to office stuff?
  - jacobr1 3y ago
    Correct. Those lower-desk-utilization offices still have current leases.
  - alchemist1e9 3y ago
    https://www.kastle.com/safety-wellness/getting-america-back-to-work/ https://www.kastle.com/safety-wellness/getting-america-back-... Those statistics are probably closer to what you want.
    - Animats 3y ago
      Right. 49% pre-pandemic occupancy, measured by the systems that check people in when they enter the building.
      - alchemist1e9 3y ago
        43.2% specifically for San Francisco metro last week. I find the reports interesting and they change through time and for example the breakdown by day of the week.
- DeRock 3y ago
  I don't even think it would track it if 0 people were coming in, as long as the lease is still active. Commercial office leases tend to be on the longer end compared to residential (eg. 10-year is not uncommon).
InCityDreams 3y ago
>As an introvert looking for some quiet time I head into the office with an open floor plan to not see people ...maybe they see you coming?
- gumby 3y ago
  How thoughtful of then to clear out for him!
TMWNN 3y ago
>I’m surprised to see it that low. Downtown SF is pretty dead. And yet there are people in denial. This /r/sanfrancisco post is unintentionally hilarious. <https://np.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/11z2cz5/americas_most_abandoned_downtown/ https://np.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/11z2cz5/americ...> I think they think that "People leaving SF" = "Trump wins", or something.

by idoh 3y ago

I’m surprised to see it that low. Downtown SF is pretty dead. As an introvert looking for some quiet time I head into the office with an open floor plan to not see people while I work.

vkou 3y ago

A 100-person office that has one introvert coming into it every day because they are looking for some quiet time is not considered 'vacant' by this statistic.

Covzire 3y ago
So the per-desk vacancy, if such a thing were tracked, might be much higher than 33%?
- nemomarx 3y ago
  The proper way to track it would be traffic in the commute hours and spending on lunches and so on during the work day, I suppose? Isn't that what cities are measuring and looking at with this return to office stuff?
- jacobr1 3y ago
  Correct. Those lower-desk-utilization offices still have current leases.
- alchemist1e9 3y ago
  https://www.kastle.com/safety-wellness/getting-america-back-to-work/ https://www.kastle.com/safety-wellness/getting-america-back-... Those statistics are probably closer to what you want.
  - Animats 3y ago
    Right. 49% pre-pandemic occupancy, measured by the systems that check people in when they enter the building.
    - alchemist1e9 3y ago
      43.2% specifically for San Francisco metro last week. I find the reports interesting and they change through time and for example the breakdown by day of the week.
DeRock 3y ago
I don't even think it would track it if 0 people were coming in, as long as the lease is still active. Commercial office leases tend to be on the longer end compared to residential (eg. 10-year is not uncommon).

InCityDreams 3y ago

>As an introvert looking for some quiet time I head into the office with an open floor plan to not see people ...maybe they see you coming?

gumby 3y ago
How thoughtful of then to clear out for him!

TMWNN 3y ago

>I’m surprised to see it that low. Downtown SF is pretty dead. And yet there are people in denial. This /r/sanfrancisco post is unintentionally hilarious. <https://np.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/11z2cz5/americas_most_abandoned_downtown/ https://np.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/11z2cz5/americ...> I think they think that "People leaving SF" = "Trump wins", or something.