3 ms·

General (not targeted) guidance counseling once they're out of prison probably would help here. Just help to get them back on their feet for the woman. Regular

General (not targeted) guidance counseling once they're out of prison probably would help here. Just help to get them back on their feet for the woman. Regular checkups, seeing how she's doing, giving the indication someone cares about her. This can do a lot to help someone understand what they did wrong and can help them understand that being a part of society means thinking about others as well. (Chiefly, don't do this in a way that's denigrating to her as a person.) Involve CPS with all the teenagers. The woman probably had other things in her life that caused her to end up with that remorseless of a personality - granted I suspect a part of this might also just be the American general tendency to take rights as "fuck you got mine", instead of "we have to share this place together", which might be hard to deal with (assuming this is US). The teenagers probably had inattentive parents or a bad school life, which turned them to doing shit that is pretty much harassing people that eventually would get someone killed. It sounds almost certain like there's secondary circumstances involved - petty theft is usually scared out (since teenagers tend to do it because of the "taboo", the fact that most kids don't see real consequences of their actions until then and finally that it's seen as the least egregious crime that isn't like... a speeding violation or a parking ticket), but if that defense is as you say, it sounds more deliberate and more deeply rooted. Crimes are sometimes a symptom of other things, not the cause.

quacked 4y ago
You are clearly well-meaning, but your suggestions indicate a lack of familiarity with the mindset and behaviors of people that become chronically involved with the criminal justice system. You are not going to teach a mindless drunk driver by indicating to them, via a state-employed official, that "someone cares about them". You're not going to convince a teenager that hurting people is wrong by having them speak to a social worker with a caseload. Children learn their moral systems from years of active and passive indoctrination into their parents' and peers' culture. If you want to reorient someone's moral compass by instilling values that no one ever taught them, and are not present in the culture in which they live outside of prison, you're going to need something a hell of a lot more potent than regular appointments with a therapist. > Crimes are sometimes a symptom of other things, not the cause. Chronic criminality is the result of moral systems that are calibrated and reinforced by violent and uncivilized cultures. This goes doubly for "rich" criminals, who display their immoral behavior through war and the stock market. Reforming a petty criminal or a serial abuser is as difficult as reforming a corporate executive taking kickbacks. They don't see a problem with it.

quacked 4y ago

You are clearly well-meaning, but your suggestions indicate a lack of familiarity with the mindset and behaviors of people that become chronically involved with the criminal justice system. You are not going to teach a mindless drunk driver by indicating to them, via a state-employed official, that "someone cares about them". You're not going to convince a teenager that hurting people is wrong by having them speak to a social worker with a caseload. Children learn their moral systems from years of active and passive indoctrination into their parents' and peers' culture. If you want to reorient someone's moral compass by instilling values that no one ever taught them, and are not present in the culture in which they live outside of prison, you're going to need something a hell of a lot more potent than regular appointments with a therapist. > Crimes are sometimes a symptom of other things, not the cause. Chronic criminality is the result of moral systems that are calibrated and reinforced by violent and uncivilized cultures. This goes doubly for "rich" criminals, who display their immoral behavior through war and the stock market. Reforming a petty criminal or a serial abuser is as difficult as reforming a corporate executive taking kickbacks. They don't see a problem with it.