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What's the problem with traffic cameras? They seem fairer and more effective than discretionary police enforcement.
by yowzadave 4y ago
What's the problem with traffic cameras? They seem fairer and more effective than discretionary police enforcement.
- junofan 4y agoThe goal is safety, not effective enforcement. Cameras have increased accidents in many areas.
- JoeAltmaier 4y agoThat seems an exceptional claim. Where I live folks obeyed the speed limit scrupulously where traffic cameras were in use. That has to reduce accidents, as expected?
- version_five 4y agoHes probably talking about cities shortening yellow lights after they install red light cameras to make more people into "offenders" and cause accidents as a side effect https://ww2.motorists.org/blog/6-cities-that-were-caught-shortening-yellow-light-times-for-profit/ https://ww2.motorists.org/blog/6-cities-that-were-caught-sho... https://www.salon.com/2017/04/05/this-may-have-happened-to-you-revenue-hungry-cities-mess-with-traffic-lights-to-write-more-tickets_partner/ https://www.salon.com/2017/04/05/this-may-have-happened-to-y...
- JoeAltmaier 4y agoAh. We only have speed cameras.
- SoftTalker 4y agoAny road has a "natural" speed that ~80% of drivers will drive at if not otherwise restricted. If you limit the speed below that, you have a lot of annoyed, frustrated drivers and that is a recipe for more road rage and accidents.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoMy objection to that is that the "natural" speed may not be taking into account unexpected conditions. For example, it may drive by a school or playground and the speed limit is there because of the danger of children running out. The "natural" speed isn't going to take that into account.
- IceyEC 4y agoThe correct solution here is road engineering so that the natural speed of the road is slower, rather than artificially slowing down traffic via a posted limit. This can be done by adding curves or thinning the road
- treeman79 4y agohttps://nypost.com/2012/10/08/citys-gotcha-traffic-cameras-use-short-yellow-lights-to-increase-ticket-revenue-study/amp/ https://nypost.com/2012/10/08/citys-gotcha-traffic-cameras-u... Lots of stories of yellow light being shortened to create more tickets. They are a revenue source for a city above all else.
- amadeuspagel 4y agoMaybe cities should explicitly charge for using roads instead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congestion_pricing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congestion_pricing
- bsder 4y agoThe traffic cameras were installed on intersections where they would generate the most revenue rather than on intersections that generate the most accidents or injuries.