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I find it wildly ridiculous that we've more or less abandoned the practically simple idea of "the web is text, so just let people render the text how they want

by jrm4 4y ago

I find it wildly ridiculous that we've more or less abandoned the practically simple idea of "the web is text, so just let people render the text how they want in their browsers." Yet another reminder of the overblown nature of UX/UI in general. Given the current push for accessibility, seems like "make the text accessible" should be the goal above all else.

tedunangst 4y ago
But the text is all there? Is there some sort of DRM embedded in the html that prevents you from rendering it how you'd like?
- ryandrake 4y ago
  Browsers are dropping the ball. Yes, You can disable styles, and dig through settings to configure proper rendering. But browsers are 1. Defaulting to giving web designers control and 2. Are hiding the overrides deeper and deeper in settings. The browser should default to your operating system’s default color scheme, text size, and font face, and no CSS. There should be a setting somewhere you can opt in to “let the web site decide these things.”
renewiltord 4y ago
You can use a userstyle on the webpage. It works. It's quite straightforward actually.
- bombcar 4y ago
  They even offer ten themes and a chooser which is 9 themes more than 99% of websites.
- MavisBacon 4y ago
  I think most people are going to give up before they find that link in the footer, and regardless these themes still present accessibility issues, especially that static image background. I personally find even the "mostly monochrome" style very difficult to read through and I'm guessing I'm not the only one.
- jrm4 4y ago
  On this page, sure. On all pages, not so much.
  - renewiltord 4y ago
    No, explicitly on every page. It's a user agent level choice.
basch 4y ago
Time to hop over to Gemini.
hoosieree 4y ago
The way a lot of people experience "the web" is not primarily text, but instead compressed screenshots of text. And screenshots of screenshots, ad infinitum.

by jrm4 4y ago

tedunangst 4y ago

But the text is all there? Is there some sort of DRM embedded in the html that prevents you from rendering it how you'd like?

ryandrake 4y ago
Browsers are dropping the ball. Yes, You can disable styles, and dig through settings to configure proper rendering. But browsers are 1. Defaulting to giving web designers control and 2. Are hiding the overrides deeper and deeper in settings. The browser should default to your operating system’s default color scheme, text size, and font face, and no CSS. There should be a setting somewhere you can opt in to “let the web site decide these things.”

renewiltord 4y ago

You can use a userstyle on the webpage. It works. It's quite straightforward actually.

bombcar 4y ago
They even offer ten themes and a chooser which is 9 themes more than 99% of websites.
MavisBacon 4y ago
I think most people are going to give up before they find that link in the footer, and regardless these themes still present accessibility issues, especially that static image background. I personally find even the "mostly monochrome" style very difficult to read through and I'm guessing I'm not the only one.
jrm4 4y ago
On this page, sure. On all pages, not so much.
- renewiltord 4y ago
  No, explicitly on every page. It's a user agent level choice.

basch 4y ago

Time to hop over to Gemini.

hoosieree 4y ago

The way a lot of people experience "the web" is not primarily text, but instead compressed screenshots of text. And screenshots of screenshots, ad infinitum.