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It's because there's not really a logical reason for people to not get vaccinated. ChatGPT making up—or even parroting—false medical information hurts users tha

It's because there's not really a logical reason for people to not get vaccinated. ChatGPT making up—or even parroting—false medical information hurts users that may want it to tell the truth instead of just saying nonsense that sounds like it could be true. I think the question should be, what possible advantage is there to not correcting the model? Why would anyone want to ask it for arguments why vaccination is bad and be told because it's 100% fatal and will give you autism and turn your children into puppies and make you unable to see purple?

john-radio 4y ago
> It's because there's not really a logical reason for people to not get vaccinated. I agree with you, but I think there's a valid conversation to have around who gets to decide what there is no logical reason for people to be allowed to use AI for.
ttoinou 4y ago
So you want to tweak the model to fit your own view that "there's not really a logical reason for people to not get vaccinated". Whereas that's just like your opinion, and plenty of people have very valid and rational reason not to do so. They might even have read more scientific papers about it than a person holding this belief
- drekk 4y ago
  It's not an opinion, though. Reading some papers isn't a replacement for a proper medical education. There are some logical reasons to avoid a vaccination (being immunocompromised, being allergic to an ingredient, etc.) but that doesn't cover the sizable portion of anti-vaxxers who oppose them on ideological grounds. AI is going to make spreading disinformation trivial, and do so in a way that is much more convincing than an image with JPEG artifacts shared by your Uncle Jerry on Facebook in a public group called "HOLISTIC BLEACH ENEMAS". It's a natural evolution of radio except you don't need a charismatic human guiding the entire process. Half of U.S. adults cannot read a book written at the 8th grade level or higher [0]. These adults are empowered to make medical decisions for themselves and their family. Is the "freedom" for a model to argue in favor of controversial, unproven, even dangerous positions more important than, say, a child with autism's safety [1]? I think that can of worms is just being opened, and the human cost is going to be atrocious. [0] https://www.wyliecomm.com/2021/08/whats-the-latest-u-s-literacy-rate/ https://www.wyliecomm.com/2021/08/whats-the-latest-u-s-liter... [1] https://www.vice.com/en/article/kwxq3w/parents-are-giving-their-children-bleach-enemas-to-cure-them-of-autism-311 https://www.vice.com/en/article/kwxq3w/parents-are-giving-th...
  - revelio 4y ago
    Of course it's an opinion. The very fact that governments publicly committed themselves to making everyone take the shots automatically means many people will refuse to take them because all controls, safety procedures and reliable information evaporated at that point. Yet it was already known the danger was incredibly low for almost everyone. >> Reading some papers isn't a replacement for a proper medical education. Right, it's superior, because medical educations lead to medical jobs and medical jobs lead to medical registers, which lead to fear of retaliation and being struck off. It certainly doesn't imply doctors reliably read research, understand it and then act on it neutrally and logically. Doctors were and still are among the least reliable people to advise on vaccines due to the hyper-aggressive censorship imposed upon them by bureaucrats and officials who get proven systematically wrong, yet do not care.
  - ttoinou 4y ago
    but that doesn't cover the sizable portion of anti-vaxxers who oppose them on ideological grounds It's your ideology against theirs...

john-radio 4y ago

> It's because there's not really a logical reason for people to not get vaccinated. I agree with you, but I think there's a valid conversation to have around who gets to decide what there is no logical reason for people to be allowed to use AI for.

ttoinou 4y ago

So you want to tweak the model to fit your own view that "there's not really a logical reason for people to not get vaccinated". Whereas that's just like your opinion, and plenty of people have very valid and rational reason not to do so. They might even have read more scientific papers about it than a person holding this belief

drekk 4y ago
It's not an opinion, though. Reading some papers isn't a replacement for a proper medical education. There are some logical reasons to avoid a vaccination (being immunocompromised, being allergic to an ingredient, etc.) but that doesn't cover the sizable portion of anti-vaxxers who oppose them on ideological grounds. AI is going to make spreading disinformation trivial, and do so in a way that is much more convincing than an image with JPEG artifacts shared by your Uncle Jerry on Facebook in a public group called "HOLISTIC BLEACH ENEMAS". It's a natural evolution of radio except you don't need a charismatic human guiding the entire process. Half of U.S. adults cannot read a book written at the 8th grade level or higher [0]. These adults are empowered to make medical decisions for themselves and their family. Is the "freedom" for a model to argue in favor of controversial, unproven, even dangerous positions more important than, say, a child with autism's safety [1]? I think that can of worms is just being opened, and the human cost is going to be atrocious. [0] https://www.wyliecomm.com/2021/08/whats-the-latest-u-s-literacy-rate/ https://www.wyliecomm.com/2021/08/whats-the-latest-u-s-liter... [1] https://www.vice.com/en/article/kwxq3w/parents-are-giving-their-children-bleach-enemas-to-cure-them-of-autism-311 https://www.vice.com/en/article/kwxq3w/parents-are-giving-th...
- revelio 4y ago
  Of course it's an opinion. The very fact that governments publicly committed themselves to making everyone take the shots automatically means many people will refuse to take them because all controls, safety procedures and reliable information evaporated at that point. Yet it was already known the danger was incredibly low for almost everyone. >> Reading some papers isn't a replacement for a proper medical education. Right, it's superior, because medical educations lead to medical jobs and medical jobs lead to medical registers, which lead to fear of retaliation and being struck off. It certainly doesn't imply doctors reliably read research, understand it and then act on it neutrally and logically. Doctors were and still are among the least reliable people to advise on vaccines due to the hyper-aggressive censorship imposed upon them by bureaucrats and officials who get proven systematically wrong, yet do not care.
- ttoinou 4y ago
  but that doesn't cover the sizable portion of anti-vaxxers who oppose them on ideological grounds It's your ideology against theirs...