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It makes me wonder who they'll be pardoning in 50 years time from now. Assange, Manning, David Kelly, McKinnon etc. There's no excuse to get it wrong in the fi

by bwarp 15y ago

It makes me wonder who they'll be pardoning in 50 years time from now. Assange, Manning, David Kelly, McKinnon etc. There's no excuse to get it wrong in the first place and I'm sure for the people concerned, a pardon is probably virtually irrelevant by the time they have issued it. Either the people are dead or their life is wrecked.

peteretep 15y ago
Well, given the response, presumably they won't be pardoning any of them...?
mooism2 15y ago
They can't pardon David Kelly. He wasn't ever charged with anything, much less convicted, was he?
- bwarp 15y ago
  Not every part of the government operates under the same rules as us. If they don't want someone around, they bully them to suicide or kill them (opinions are open as to what happened there). Then they run a public inquiry, ironically headed by school chums of the ruling class to shut people up about it.
  - mooism2 15y ago
    Even accepting what you say, having been convicted of a crime is a necessary prerequisite for receiving a pardon.
  - hahaiamatwork 15y ago
    This isn't a conspiracy theory site. For the sake of polite conversation this isn't the place to start making such claims.
    - JeremyBanks 15y ago
      Previous discussion on this subject (two years ago): http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1073405 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1073405
- mjwalshe 15y ago
  No but the elements of the press that hounded him have some repsonsability for his suicide as arguably do his employers for failing in thier duty of care
itmag 15y ago
It makes me wonder who they'll be pardoning in 50 years time from now. Assange, Manning, David Kelly, McKinnon etc. You're assuming that history is a linear ascent toward ever higher morality. What if it goes the other way?
- bwarp 15y ago
  That's a very fair point. Thinking about it, the morality inclines for a bit after a war, then declines as another appears. Well that's my perception anyway.

by bwarp 15y ago

peteretep 15y ago

Well, given the response, presumably they won't be pardoning any of them...?

mooism2 15y ago

They can't pardon David Kelly. He wasn't ever charged with anything, much less convicted, was he?

bwarp 15y ago
Not every part of the government operates under the same rules as us. If they don't want someone around, they bully them to suicide or kill them (opinions are open as to what happened there). Then they run a public inquiry, ironically headed by school chums of the ruling class to shut people up about it.
- mooism2 15y ago
  Even accepting what you say, having been convicted of a crime is a necessary prerequisite for receiving a pardon.
- hahaiamatwork 15y ago
  This isn't a conspiracy theory site. For the sake of polite conversation this isn't the place to start making such claims.
  - JeremyBanks 15y ago
    Previous discussion on this subject (two years ago): http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1073405 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1073405
mjwalshe 15y ago
No but the elements of the press that hounded him have some repsonsability for his suicide as arguably do his employers for failing in thier duty of care

itmag 15y ago

It makes me wonder who they'll be pardoning in 50 years time from now. Assange, Manning, David Kelly, McKinnon etc. You're assuming that history is a linear ascent toward ever higher morality. What if it goes the other way?

bwarp 15y ago
That's a very fair point. Thinking about it, the morality inclines for a bit after a war, then declines as another appears. Well that's my perception anyway.