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This is beyond satire, the very first line is: > Violent crime has technically been worse in Canada, Technically worse? (Is that the best kind of worse?).

potmat 4y ago
I believe the article goes on to make the point that while violent crime overall has been worse, the difference now is that many of the victims are not themselves violent criminals. In other words, whereas previously violence was largely confined to violent people, now, random innocent people are involved.
strken 4y ago
If violent crime had been worse before, but it was largely perpetrated by those who knew the victim, that's a very different risk profile to random attacks. If it was previously majority domestic violence, but now it's untreated mental illness and revolving door prisons, it also demands a different solution.
- lorenzo95 4y ago
  It's also not affordable to treat mental health here. A 50 min session costs $220 and benefits mostly don't cover it to this day. The hope is that the current clinical testing with ai based therapy bots can increase accessibility and affordability to therapists I would think. What other realistic option is there?
wussboy 4y ago
And maybe I just missed it, but they never said whether the amount of crime was actually worse. They spent a fair bit of time on a survey where most people said they thought crime was worse. But that has never not been true, even when crime was rapidly falling.
- moolcool 4y ago
  > And maybe I just missed it, but they never said whether the amount of crime was actually worse They literally just lied in the headline. > They spent a fair bit of time on a survey where most people said they thought crime was worse. The "facts don't care about your feelings" crowd care a lot about feelings when those feelings are about crime.
vincnetas 4y ago
I guess this is reference to Futurama : Bureaucrat Conrad, you are technically correct - the best kind of correct. I hereby promote you to grade 37 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZEuWJ4muYc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZEuWJ4muYc edit: i mean parent comment is referencing Futurama, not the article.
phkahler 4y ago
>> Technically worse? (Is that the best kind of worse?). I think "historically worse" is what they were after. If they said it's worse than ever, that would be technically incorrect even though it might be true of the last 30 years.

potmat 4y ago

I believe the article goes on to make the point that while violent crime overall has been worse, the difference now is that many of the victims are not themselves violent criminals. In other words, whereas previously violence was largely confined to violent people, now, random innocent people are involved.

strken 4y ago

If violent crime had been worse before, but it was largely perpetrated by those who knew the victim, that's a very different risk profile to random attacks. If it was previously majority domestic violence, but now it's untreated mental illness and revolving door prisons, it also demands a different solution.

lorenzo95 4y ago
It's also not affordable to treat mental health here. A 50 min session costs $220 and benefits mostly don't cover it to this day. The hope is that the current clinical testing with ai based therapy bots can increase accessibility and affordability to therapists I would think. What other realistic option is there?

wussboy 4y ago

And maybe I just missed it, but they never said whether the amount of crime was actually worse. They spent a fair bit of time on a survey where most people said they thought crime was worse. But that has never not been true, even when crime was rapidly falling.

moolcool 4y ago
> And maybe I just missed it, but they never said whether the amount of crime was actually worse They literally just lied in the headline. > They spent a fair bit of time on a survey where most people said they thought crime was worse. The "facts don't care about your feelings" crowd care a lot about feelings when those feelings are about crime.

vincnetas 4y ago

I guess this is reference to Futurama : Bureaucrat Conrad, you are technically correct - the best kind of correct. I hereby promote you to grade 37 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZEuWJ4muYc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZEuWJ4muYc edit: i mean parent comment is referencing Futurama, not the article.

phkahler 4y ago

>> Technically worse? (Is that the best kind of worse?). I think "historically worse" is what they were after. If they said it's worse than ever, that would be technically incorrect even though it might be true of the last 30 years.