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Someone from Sweden please help me, there I learned that you can say something like “Ö in å” which means island on a river. (Im sure im butchering it, but I’m

by Trufa 3y ago

Someone from Sweden please help me, there I learned that you can say something like “Ö in å” which means island on a river. (Im sure im butchering it, but I’m not to far away) Maybe you can make this look insane :)

valvar 3y ago
That is indeed true! The most famous example can be found at the bottom of this page: https://www.alphadictionary.com/fun/tongue-twisters/swedish_tongue_twisters.html https://www.alphadictionary.com/fun/tongue-twisters/swedish_... å: stream ö: island i: in ä: not correct, but used to represent dialectical pronunciation of "är", i.e. "is"
- korla 3y ago
  Further: e: dialectal version of "det", i.e. "it" öa, åa: adding an a on the end of a noun is a dialectal way of expressing "the 'ö'" and "the 'å'", respectively.
  - kzrdude 3y ago
    Wouldn't "e" just be a contraction of "en" in this sentence? Is it "det" in the dialect?
    - CRConrad 3y ago
      No, you're right, it's "en": "...en å, och i ån är en ö". "Det" would be totally ungrammatical, dialect or no dialect.
  - CRConrad 3y ago
    But the 'e' doesn't precede any of the forms 'åa' or 'öa', but only the indeterminate 'å' and 'ö'. The 'e' is definitely 'en', not 'det'.
- CRConrad 3y ago
  That seems to be (an expansion of) a little bit from a poem, Dumt fôlk by Gustaf Fröding: https://sv.wikisource.org/wiki/Dumt_f%C3%B4lk https://sv.wikisource.org/wiki/Dumt_f%C3%B4lk. But that only has "...e å, å i åa ä e ö" -- not the bit about "å i öa ä e å" from that tongue-twisters page, which seems to be a later addition. Ungrammatical, too: I'm sure even värmlänningar would say "på öa", not "i öa". (Oh, and "e" is of course a contraction of the indeterminate article "en", a/an.)
state_less 3y ago
I grew up on one of those islands on a river. The flow of the river passing like a stream of time.
kzrdude 3y ago
The sentence: > I åa ä e ö, å i öa ä e å mentioned in the other comment is understandable to a swedish speaker, but it's written half-phonetically. The words i, å, and ö are properly spelled, however.

by Trufa 3y ago

valvar 3y ago

That is indeed true! The most famous example can be found at the bottom of this page: https://www.alphadictionary.com/fun/tongue-twisters/swedish_tongue_twisters.html https://www.alphadictionary.com/fun/tongue-twisters/swedish_... å: stream ö: island i: in ä: not correct, but used to represent dialectical pronunciation of "är", i.e. "is"

korla 3y ago
Further: e: dialectal version of "det", i.e. "it" öa, åa: adding an a on the end of a noun is a dialectal way of expressing "the 'ö'" and "the 'å'", respectively.
- kzrdude 3y ago
  Wouldn't "e" just be a contraction of "en" in this sentence? Is it "det" in the dialect?
  - CRConrad 3y ago
    No, you're right, it's "en": "...en å, och i ån är en ö". "Det" would be totally ungrammatical, dialect or no dialect.
- CRConrad 3y ago
  But the 'e' doesn't precede any of the forms 'åa' or 'öa', but only the indeterminate 'å' and 'ö'. The 'e' is definitely 'en', not 'det'.
CRConrad 3y ago
That seems to be (an expansion of) a little bit from a poem, Dumt fôlk by Gustaf Fröding: https://sv.wikisource.org/wiki/Dumt_f%C3%B4lk https://sv.wikisource.org/wiki/Dumt_f%C3%B4lk. But that only has "...e å, å i åa ä e ö" -- not the bit about "å i öa ä e å" from that tongue-twisters page, which seems to be a later addition. Ungrammatical, too: I'm sure even värmlänningar would say "på öa", not "i öa". (Oh, and "e" is of course a contraction of the indeterminate article "en", a/an.)

state_less 3y ago

I grew up on one of those islands on a river. The flow of the river passing like a stream of time.

kzrdude 3y ago

The sentence: > I åa ä e ö, å i öa ä e å mentioned in the other comment is understandable to a swedish speaker, but it's written half-phonetically. The words i, å, and ö are properly spelled, however.