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Superficially, the banners appeared due to how the law was made and how it's implemented. The noble intention is one thing and the pragmatic reality is another.
by devnullbrain 3y ago
Superficially, the banners appeared due to how the law was made and how it's implemented. The noble intention is one thing and the pragmatic reality is another.
It's correct to blame the businesses for creating the banners but also unfair to treat the matter as if the businesses and the EU are on a level playing field. The EU makes laws - it has cheat codes to achieve what it wants.
It's like defensive driving. You may not be at fault if someone crashes into you but you may have had the power to prevent it.
- illiarian 3y ago> Superficially, the banners appeared due to how the law was made So stop being superficial and read this 7-year old law. I wonder if you could point to me where it talks about cookie banners
- devnullbrain 3y agoAnd yet it's been 7 years and the banners still exist.
- illiarian 3y agoBecause the industry doesn't want to give up on tracking and siphoning user data.
- devnullbrain 3y ago7 years of complaining about it hasn't changed that. Do you think another 7 years will be more effective? Alternatively, the EU could change the laws. Or enforce the existing ones.
- illiarian 3y ago> 7 years of complaining about it hasn't changed that. Funnily how "7 years of complaining" was, and continues to be, only about the EU. Not about the predatory businesses creating these banners (often in direct violation of GDPR). > Or enforce the existing ones. That's definitely the biggest criticism you can level at EU: they are too slow in enforcing this. I think the tide is very slowly changing. First they started showing reject buttons https://noyb.eu/en/where-did-all-reject-buttons-come https://noyb.eu/en/where-did-all-reject-buttons-come There's a report on the cookie banners in the works: https://noyb.eu/en/data-protection-authorities-support-noybs-call-fair-yesno-cookie-banners https://noyb.eu/en/data-protection-authorities-support-noybs... etc.
- devnullbrain 3y ago>was, and continues to be, only about the EU. Not about the predatory businesses creating these banners https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17679596 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17679596 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25457469 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25457469 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30982470 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30982470 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23090393 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23090393 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29529062 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29529062 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19381063 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19381063 All of these links have comments against this sentiment.
- illiarian 3y agoI will admit that there's also a slowly grown understanding of where the cookie banners come from, so it's not "100% blame the EU". This comment from one o the linked discussions sums it up well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29529190 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29529190