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Given the amount of suffering reported in the article, its very telling how little sympathy the author has for those it reports on. The author champions an ide

Given the amount of suffering reported in the article, its very telling how little sympathy the author has for those it reports on. The author champions an ideology that is doing immense harm, but the author never stops to examine their beliefs. Remember that what is bad for men is also bad for women, especially because women are innately hypergamous - wishing to marry across or up status hierarchies. At some point a young woman will want to find a man she can respect to marry. But the penny hasn't dropped with the author. Maybe the great achievements of feminism aren't all they are cracked up to be. How can they be? - when the world they have relentlessly demanded is making both men and women so desperately lonely and unhappy.

luckylion 3y ago
Are women desperately lonely and unhappy? Teenage mental health aside (probably not caused by lack of desirable marriage partners), loneliness and desperation, and the drug abuse and suicide that follows, seem to be primarily male problems. Maybe enough women don't want to get married, or they have another way of dealing with that not happening, but I'm not sure there's a crisis there. Granted, I don't follow surveys closely, but generally if women are affected, it will be a widely known story and the news will pick it up. It's not, so I assume they aren't.
- realjhol 3y ago
  The news hacks bear significant responsibility for many of the problems western society currently faces. They're not going to save either men or women. The birth rate has fallen off a cliff. The rate of family formation falls lower and lower. Older millennial women are coming to terms with the reality that they will likely never have children. Gen Z women are still young enough to engage in extreme promiscuity via the dating apps, without yet feeling the consequences. This isn't going to end anywhere good.
  - luckylion 3y ago
    Some women don't want any children, so while birth rate might be a societal problem, it's not one for individual women, I think. For those that do, there are options, even if they don't want to have a partner. There's the exception of those who want biological children but are infertile. I'm sure there's a lot of suffering (evidenced by them being ready to pay quite a lot of money for help), but I don't think it's a social issue. Maybe there will be a huge explosion 10 years from now and it'll be a complete surprise. Today I don't see any signs of it, and I'm pretty confident that the signs would be very hard to overlook because of the focus on women's health, so any expressed unhappiness that goes beyond rare individual cases will be picked up.

luckylion 3y ago

Are women desperately lonely and unhappy? Teenage mental health aside (probably not caused by lack of desirable marriage partners), loneliness and desperation, and the drug abuse and suicide that follows, seem to be primarily male problems. Maybe enough women don't want to get married, or they have another way of dealing with that not happening, but I'm not sure there's a crisis there. Granted, I don't follow surveys closely, but generally if women are affected, it will be a widely known story and the news will pick it up. It's not, so I assume they aren't.

realjhol 3y ago
The news hacks bear significant responsibility for many of the problems western society currently faces. They're not going to save either men or women. The birth rate has fallen off a cliff. The rate of family formation falls lower and lower. Older millennial women are coming to terms with the reality that they will likely never have children. Gen Z women are still young enough to engage in extreme promiscuity via the dating apps, without yet feeling the consequences. This isn't going to end anywhere good.
- luckylion 3y ago
  Some women don't want any children, so while birth rate might be a societal problem, it's not one for individual women, I think. For those that do, there are options, even if they don't want to have a partner. There's the exception of those who want biological children but are infertile. I'm sure there's a lot of suffering (evidenced by them being ready to pay quite a lot of money for help), but I don't think it's a social issue. Maybe there will be a huge explosion 10 years from now and it'll be a complete surprise. Today I don't see any signs of it, and I'm pretty confident that the signs would be very hard to overlook because of the focus on women's health, so any expressed unhappiness that goes beyond rare individual cases will be picked up.