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I have a very simple response to this: fix the business model or just take the site off the web. If your site or service is popular enough I'm sure there is a w

I have a very simple response to this: fix the business model or just take the site off the web. If your site or service is popular enough I'm sure there is a way of monetizing it without tracking ads. Contextual ads, Really dumb ads, product referrals, subscriptions, the options are endless. The usual response I get to this position is "but I don't want to pay with money and I don't mind ads, and I really like the content, should you be making the decision for me that I can't participate in that transaction?" To which my answer is yes.

FredPret 4y ago
Why do jumped-up little bureaucrats always appropriate other people’s power of choice? It’s like there’s some dark instinct to issue diktats so that everyone must follow The One True Way… as defined by you.
- illiarian 4y ago
  > Why do jumped-up little bureaucrats always appropriate other people’s power of choice They don't. What they say is that businesses shouldn't assume that people's private data is theirs for the taking. People still have the choice to opt-in to pervasive tracking.
  - FredPret 4y ago
    > “should you be making the decision for me that I can't participate in that transaction?" To which my answer is yes.”
    - illiarian 4y ago
      You can participate in transaction. If the business asks you if you want to participate in the transaction, literally no one is stopping you from saying yes.
      - FredPret 4y ago
        No-one but alkonaut and their autocratic fellow-travellers
        illiarian 4y ago
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        alkonaut 4y ago
        Yea I’m sticking to that argument. Basically: I think it would be fine for anyone to participate in market transactions with transparency. But I don’t think there can be transparency here, or that if we really tried then almost no one would accept the transaction anyway. So I’m thinking a ban of the transactions is the lesser evil. We already ban e.g sale of your own organs. I’m fine with that too. Now, am I the right person to decide whether people value their kidneys like their integrity? Yes.

FredPret 4y ago

Why do jumped-up little bureaucrats always appropriate other people’s power of choice? It’s like there’s some dark instinct to issue diktats so that everyone must follow The One True Way… as defined by you.

illiarian 4y ago
> Why do jumped-up little bureaucrats always appropriate other people’s power of choice They don't. What they say is that businesses shouldn't assume that people's private data is theirs for the taking. People still have the choice to opt-in to pervasive tracking.
- FredPret 4y ago
  > “should you be making the decision for me that I can't participate in that transaction?" To which my answer is yes.”
  - illiarian 4y ago
    You can participate in transaction. If the business asks you if you want to participate in the transaction, literally no one is stopping you from saying yes.
    - FredPret 4y ago
      No-one but alkonaut and their autocratic fellow-travellers
      - illiarian 4y ago
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      - alkonaut 4y ago
        Yea I’m sticking to that argument. Basically: I think it would be fine for anyone to participate in market transactions with transparency. But I don’t think there can be transparency here, or that if we really tried then almost no one would accept the transaction anyway. So I’m thinking a ban of the transactions is the lesser evil. We already ban e.g sale of your own organs. I’m fine with that too. Now, am I the right person to decide whether people value their kidneys like their integrity? Yes.