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This article quotes a bunch of statistics and then jumps to conclusions without analyzing why (some) men do worse than (most) women. Given that most men still

This article quotes a bunch of statistics and then jumps to conclusions without analyzing why (some) men do worse than (most) women. Given that most men still outearn most women and that more women attempt to commit suicide and the ongoing (predominantly female) teenage mental health crisis this whole article reads like a case study of how to lie with statistics and jump to (bad) conclusions. Men have problems, women have problems and instead of framing it as a gender issue and arguing that either men or women have to change I think it would be more productive to zoom in and analyse why less men graduate from college or why (young) women have seen such a rapid decline in wellbeing in the past ten years.

ashwagary 4y ago
>more women attempt to commit suicide My understanding is women attempt suicide but more men succeed at it.
- red-iron-pine 4y ago
  in the US. because guns.
  - luckylion 4y ago
    It's the same in Germany. Without guns. Men commit suicide approximately 3 times as often as women with the exception of children under the age of 15, where there's slightly more girls than boys. [1] At the same time, women more frequently "try". The common explanation is that most of those aren't serious tries but rather cries for help and attention, while men will try to commit suicide when they positively want to die. Before you protest, here's an article describing multiple studies suggesting such (in German), which adds that male suicide is a sign of toxic masculinity, so it should be above suspicion of being misogynistic. [2] [1] https://www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Gesellschaft-Umwelt/Gesundheit/Todesursachen/Tabellen/suizide.html https://www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Gesellschaft-Umwelt/Gesund... [2] https://www.spektrum.de/news/suizid-paradox-toedliche-geschlechterrolle/1620966 https://www.spektrum.de/news/suizid-paradox-toedliche-geschl...

ashwagary 4y ago

>more women attempt to commit suicide My understanding is women attempt suicide but more men succeed at it.

red-iron-pine 4y ago
in the US. because guns.
- luckylion 4y ago
  It's the same in Germany. Without guns. Men commit suicide approximately 3 times as often as women with the exception of children under the age of 15, where there's slightly more girls than boys. [1] At the same time, women more frequently "try". The common explanation is that most of those aren't serious tries but rather cries for help and attention, while men will try to commit suicide when they positively want to die. Before you protest, here's an article describing multiple studies suggesting such (in German), which adds that male suicide is a sign of toxic masculinity, so it should be above suspicion of being misogynistic. [2] [1] https://www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Gesellschaft-Umwelt/Gesundheit/Todesursachen/Tabellen/suizide.html https://www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Gesellschaft-Umwelt/Gesund... [2] https://www.spektrum.de/news/suizid-paradox-toedliche-geschlechterrolle/1620966 https://www.spektrum.de/news/suizid-paradox-toedliche-geschl...