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> As a result, many men are struggling to fulfill their own outmoded expectations of what a man should be. “The problem with feminism, as a liberation movement,
by pm90 4y ago
> As a result, many men are struggling to fulfill their own outmoded expectations of what a man should be. “The problem with feminism, as a liberation movement, is not that it has ‘gone too far,’” Reeves writes. “It is that it has not gone far enough”—that is, it has not succeeded in replacing traditional models of masculinity with something more adequate to our current circumstances. The Western male is stuck in a culture of masculinity that is now desperately mismatched with his material reality. “Women’s lives have been recast,” Reeves writes. “Men’s lives have not.” Men have been consigned to “cultural redundancy.”
It’s pretty simple. Adapt or perish. Big generational change is not uncommon.
- HL33tibCe7 4y agoBig generational change is uncommon. And on this scale it is completely unprecedented
- mantas 4y agoAdapt or perish or (re)shape the world. Current state where saying „kill all men“ does not raise eyebrows is a pretty sad state. Too many pseudo-feminist lunatics are tolerated.
- polotics 4y agoI never saw that sentence anywhere, and seeing you quote it definitely raises my eyebrow. Are you aware that not everyone posting on the web is who they say they represent? The quotes looks more like inflammatory tactics than anything a feminist would write.
- mantas 4y agoIt is inflammatory tactics. But it's interesting how such posts on social media wouldn't get auto-ban. Is feminists inflammatory tactics fine? Especially when people get in trouble for what could be swept under the rug as „inflammatory tactics“ in the opposite directions? While at the same time very tame things get accounts suspended. Personally I got a ban on Facebook for calling Russians „Muscovites“ in my native tongue. Which is not even a derogatory term (we have different words for that). Yet „kill all men“ posts on Twitter or FB stay up.
- TheLoafOfBread 4y agoIt was a trending hash tag on Twitter cca 2019. #KillAllMen
- ben_w 4y agoMost of the time I've clicked on a weird trending tag on twitter, it's a bajillion people going "Oh no, why is #thing trending? :O" I recommend against taking it at all seriously.
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- rlt 4y agoOr perhaps it’s unwise to try to deny/suppress all differences between the sexes. Yes there are some masculine behaviors one might consider “toxic”, but masculinity itself isn’t inherently toxic or something that should be eliminated. But I guess we’ll find out in another generation or two if suicide rates continue to increase.
- raxxorraxor 4y ago> Adapt or perish So they should be a man, basically. You can put the same message in different words, but the meaning stays the same. I think this is a bit naive and also insulting to say the topic would be about self-image in the first place. The economic realities have changed, sure. Former skills became irrelevant, others more important. Still, in the grand scheme of things, for the relevant group not much has changed. Go to work or perish is as as true today as it was in 1970. Just that the middle class shrank considerably and people are not able to afford housing or significant luxury. That has indeed changed and has nothing to do with men/women in particular. > Now, unlike many men working in factory jobs, the male nurse is solidly middle-class. Not really. Nurses are not paid very well for the work they do. The article claims they would be middle-class. But only if you change the definition from the definition 50 years ago. Again just a worsened economic development.
- BlargMcLarg 4y ago>That has indeed changed and has nothing to do with men/women in particular. That's where you are wrong. The cultural expectations are still very similar to 1970, but the means to achieve them have worsened considerably. Something like unable to afford housing hits men far harder than women when it comes to social aspects. Language reflects this, with words demonizing men who still live at home or living in a bad place being far more prevalent than the other way around. Men and women work on different formulae. You can't simply say 'oh we give both the same input so the effect is the same'.
- raxxorraxor 4y agoI can only speak for myself but living at home is not desirable to me. I love my family, but this is not some cultural expectation that is put on me. It is my own desire to be independent and form my own household. I prefer to stay in the vicinity for visits of course, although travel today is quite convenient. Sure, it is more difficult and more expensive in comparison, but if they have the economic means, neither men nor women tend to stay with their parents. I don't deny differences in interest between men and women. Some interests will stay exceptions for one or the other sex.