> then don't live there. I don't We know. There has been a mass exodus from the area for various reasons - among which is the crime and cleanliness issue. How

> then don't live there. I don't We know. There has been a mass exodus from the area for various reasons - among which is the crime and cleanliness issue. How many HNer's have moved away and are never coming back? SF is facing a looming income issue since so many high earners have left the area. This will contribute to it's decline even further. Safety and cleanliness are not what I would dismiss as quality of life issues. Those are basic needs.