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It's somewhat fascinating - in the past we took it for granted that anyone could upload video to a video hosting site like Google Videos (back when it was a dis

It's somewhat fascinating - in the past we took it for granted that anyone could upload video to a video hosting site like Google Videos (back when it was a distinct competitor to YouTube) or a site like that mentioned in the article. Now you can only do so if you verify identities. When will the same freedoms to upload text or enter text without identity verification be lost? Will it be possible to post to a website like Hacker News without proving authorship and consent?

cool_dude85 4y ago
Nudes and sex videos are quite a different beast than "he copied those comments from my blog without asking." For obvious reasons.
- Haga 4y ago
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canadianfella 4y ago
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Buttons840 4y ago
Utah passed a law that social media sites have to verify the age of users using drivers license or passport, etc. Check boxes aren't good enough. The end effect is adults will have to upload their government papers to continue participating in online speech. Other states have similar laws in the works; it remains to be seen if they will stand up to legal scrutiny.
- rektide 4y ago
  The variety of states/nations/areas just keeps me hoping we see a return to a JP Barlow Declaration of Independence of Cyberspace. Fuck this. Don't obey. Having 9000 various powers that be that give themselves the sovereign right to tell each & every company/site what they have to do is untenable & disobedience is the only clear course. This is the internet. It's a network of humanity. If your users in your location are connecting to me over here, it's not on me to respect each & every stupid law you make. If you want that power, the only enforcement you actually have over that is disconnecting your users from my site: you need to get yourself & your population off the internet. That's the actual domain of power you have control over & that's your only real respectable bargaining chip, the rest is not respectable horseshit of low nature. There's no path where this stays at all even possible to do. Right now most nations/areas tend to copy paste policy & there's little real inspired initiative & that has made this tragic frelling emperors have no clothes farce maintainable & plausible. But this situation will only going to descend ever deeper into madness. There are no practical checks on lawmaking, & every single spot on earth thinks they have the right to define how the internet has to work. Right now everyone is sort of trying to obey & play nice, but I beg for the breakdown. Utah is a fine example of Go Fuck Yourselves You Ninnies. Germany claiming Twitter may face more fines than the company was worth at sale price is another Go Fuck Yourself Come Get Us point. There's just ever diminishing ability to believe in the legitimacy of law when it keeps happening, keeps building up, when constraints restrictions and rules are the only unchecked thing on the planet.
- gray5 4y ago
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rk06 4y ago
Perhaps when it turns out to be harmful for others. Revenge porn is a thing and known to destroy lives. And people who suffer from it, do not want to file a lawsuit and bring it more attention. And HN is also heavily moderated. For eg, If you submit a link to dev.to, it will be flagged
stuaxo 4y ago
Writing about someone is very different to making a video including the person.

cool_dude85 4y ago

Nudes and sex videos are quite a different beast than "he copied those comments from my blog without asking." For obvious reasons.

Haga 4y ago
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canadianfella 4y ago

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Buttons840 4y ago

Utah passed a law that social media sites have to verify the age of users using drivers license or passport, etc. Check boxes aren't good enough. The end effect is adults will have to upload their government papers to continue participating in online speech. Other states have similar laws in the works; it remains to be seen if they will stand up to legal scrutiny.

rektide 4y ago
The variety of states/nations/areas just keeps me hoping we see a return to a JP Barlow Declaration of Independence of Cyberspace. Fuck this. Don't obey. Having 9000 various powers that be that give themselves the sovereign right to tell each & every company/site what they have to do is untenable & disobedience is the only clear course. This is the internet. It's a network of humanity. If your users in your location are connecting to me over here, it's not on me to respect each & every stupid law you make. If you want that power, the only enforcement you actually have over that is disconnecting your users from my site: you need to get yourself & your population off the internet. That's the actual domain of power you have control over & that's your only real respectable bargaining chip, the rest is not respectable horseshit of low nature. There's no path where this stays at all even possible to do. Right now most nations/areas tend to copy paste policy & there's little real inspired initiative & that has made this tragic frelling emperors have no clothes farce maintainable & plausible. But this situation will only going to descend ever deeper into madness. There are no practical checks on lawmaking, & every single spot on earth thinks they have the right to define how the internet has to work. Right now everyone is sort of trying to obey & play nice, but I beg for the breakdown. Utah is a fine example of Go Fuck Yourselves You Ninnies. Germany claiming Twitter may face more fines than the company was worth at sale price is another Go Fuck Yourself Come Get Us point. There's just ever diminishing ability to believe in the legitimacy of law when it keeps happening, keeps building up, when constraints restrictions and rules are the only unchecked thing on the planet.
gray5 4y ago
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rk06 4y ago

Perhaps when it turns out to be harmful for others. Revenge porn is a thing and known to destroy lives. And people who suffer from it, do not want to file a lawsuit and bring it more attention. And HN is also heavily moderated. For eg, If you submit a link to dev.to, it will be flagged

stuaxo 4y ago

Writing about someone is very different to making a video including the person.