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Where is the net new electrical generation capacity to power these 100 new locations coming from not solar panels. Most likely gas turbine generation or coal

toomuchtodo 4y ago
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=46416 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=46416 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=53779 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=53779 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=51698 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=51698 https://www.pv-magazine.com/2023/03/24/ferc-says-1700-gw-of-us-renewables-still-awaiting-interconnection/ https://www.pv-magazine.com/2023/03/24/ferc-says-1700-gw-of-... https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2023/02/06/2023-will-see-the-most-utility-scale-solar-added-in-a-single-year/ https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2023/02/06/2023-will-see-the-mos... Even if provided electricity by gas turbine, it’s more efficient to burn that gas in the turbine and deliver electrons to the stove. Coal is dead by the end of the decade (only one coal fired generator, “Dry Fork”, in Wyoming is cheaper than new renewables in the US). https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/30/us-coal-more-expensive-than-renewable-energy-study https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/30/us-coal-more... https://www.gem.wiki/Dry_Fork_Station https://www.gem.wiki/Dry_Fork_Station
- dsfyu404ed 4y ago
  Electric generated elsewhere with gas not necessarily more efficient than burning gas in a situation in which the house the stove is in needs to be heated. Same goes for gas water heaters and tank water heaters in general. From there it's a simple calculation of heating need vs efficiency difference to determine which is more efficient in a particular use case.
rideontime 4y ago
Source for the “most likely” claim?
rovolo 4y ago
They mention 3 locations in the press release, so here are the electric generation types by state https://www.eia.gov/beta/states/overview https://www.eia.gov/beta/states/overview Gloucester, Virginia - 53% gas, 36% nuclear, 6.5% renewable, 4.5% coal Jacksonville, Florida - 70% gas, 15% nuclear, 8.8% coal, 5.2% renewable, 0.9% petrol Castle Rock, Colorado - 41% coal, 30% gas, 29% renewable

toomuchtodo 4y ago

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=46416 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=46416 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=53779 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=53779 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=51698 https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=51698 https://www.pv-magazine.com/2023/03/24/ferc-says-1700-gw-of-us-renewables-still-awaiting-interconnection/ https://www.pv-magazine.com/2023/03/24/ferc-says-1700-gw-of-... https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2023/02/06/2023-will-see-the-most-utility-scale-solar-added-in-a-single-year/ https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2023/02/06/2023-will-see-the-mos... Even if provided electricity by gas turbine, it’s more efficient to burn that gas in the turbine and deliver electrons to the stove. Coal is dead by the end of the decade (only one coal fired generator, “Dry Fork”, in Wyoming is cheaper than new renewables in the US). https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/30/us-coal-more-expensive-than-renewable-energy-study https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/30/us-coal-more... https://www.gem.wiki/Dry_Fork_Station https://www.gem.wiki/Dry_Fork_Station

dsfyu404ed 4y ago
Electric generated elsewhere with gas not necessarily more efficient than burning gas in a situation in which the house the stove is in needs to be heated. Same goes for gas water heaters and tank water heaters in general. From there it's a simple calculation of heating need vs efficiency difference to determine which is more efficient in a particular use case.

rideontime 4y ago

Source for the “most likely” claim?

rovolo 4y ago

They mention 3 locations in the press release, so here are the electric generation types by state https://www.eia.gov/beta/states/overview https://www.eia.gov/beta/states/overview Gloucester, Virginia - 53% gas, 36% nuclear, 6.5% renewable, 4.5% coal Jacksonville, Florida - 70% gas, 15% nuclear, 8.8% coal, 5.2% renewable, 0.9% petrol Castle Rock, Colorado - 41% coal, 30% gas, 29% renewable