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But they're not required to obey it, so they ignore it, presumably because they expect that more people will agree if they are annoyed with a dialog by each web

by robryk 3y ago

But they're not required to obey it, so they ignore it, presumably because they expect that more people will agree if they are annoyed with a dialog by each website they visit.

KyeRussell 3y ago
Which in my case is entirely true.
pipo234 3y ago
How about this: I've configured Firefox with DNT and frequently, when I land on a site that blocks my view with a modal cookie popup, I just push the back button and try another link. While my browsing behaviour might be less typical than just pressing "OK", I'm sure it's a statistic they are keeping an eye on. So while the dark pattern approach has merits to sites that want to track you, they must also be aware this is a balance. And a percentage of users will generally prefer to go to sites that leave them alone. That is: the cookie dialogue never widens the funnel.
- csunbird 3y ago
  But, this behavior does not protect your privacy at all, because those websites already put tracking information in your cookies claiming that they fall into “Legitimate Interest”. You need to interact with the modal and claw your way into the hidden settings where you can disable “Legitimate Interest” toggles.
  - whstl 3y ago
    You are correct, but just some additional information: Those cookie banners are illegal under GDPR, btw. Real "Legitimate Interest" does not even require consent, and you can't claim that tracking or marketing is "legitimate interest". An example of legitimate interest is keeping your address in the records after a purchase, or storing a receipt for accounting reasons.
joking 3y ago
and they expectation is correct, I click whatever green button that i'm presented and expect that my combination of private browser sessions, different profilers and adblock extensions messes them enough. It sucks, I know, but the quantity of time people has loss with those banners, both on the client side and both on the developer side (even If is paid work that i did, I would have preferred to do anything more valuable) is enormous, and the culprits responsable of this should be taken to the courts, if not presented with a cumputer and sentenced to pass the rest of their lives clicking consent banners. I suppose that is a matter that strikes a chord with me.

by robryk 3y ago

But they're not required to obey it, so they ignore it, presumably because they expect that more people will agree if they are annoyed with a dialog by each website they visit.

KyeRussell 3y ago

Which in my case is entirely true.

pipo234 3y ago

How about this: I've configured Firefox with DNT and frequently, when I land on a site that blocks my view with a modal cookie popup, I just push the back button and try another link. While my browsing behaviour might be less typical than just pressing "OK", I'm sure it's a statistic they are keeping an eye on. So while the dark pattern approach has merits to sites that want to track you, they must also be aware this is a balance. And a percentage of users will generally prefer to go to sites that leave them alone. That is: the cookie dialogue never widens the funnel.

csunbird 3y ago
But, this behavior does not protect your privacy at all, because those websites already put tracking information in your cookies claiming that they fall into “Legitimate Interest”. You need to interact with the modal and claw your way into the hidden settings where you can disable “Legitimate Interest” toggles.
- whstl 3y ago
  You are correct, but just some additional information: Those cookie banners are illegal under GDPR, btw. Real "Legitimate Interest" does not even require consent, and you can't claim that tracking or marketing is "legitimate interest". An example of legitimate interest is keeping your address in the records after a purchase, or storing a receipt for accounting reasons.

joking 3y ago

and they expectation is correct, I click whatever green button that i'm presented and expect that my combination of private browser sessions, different profilers and adblock extensions messes them enough. It sucks, I know, but the quantity of time people has loss with those banners, both on the client side and both on the developer side (even If is paid work that i did, I would have preferred to do anything more valuable) is enormous, and the culprits responsable of this should be taken to the courts, if not presented with a cumputer and sentenced to pass the rest of their lives clicking consent banners. I suppose that is a matter that strikes a chord with me.