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If 4chan has taught us anything, roleplaying as an edgelord and becoming an edgelord are the same thing.

by piyh 4y ago

AustinDev 4y ago
How so?
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y ago
  Not the person you replied to, but it sounds a lot like Poe’s Law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
- piyh 4y ago
  When you're in a room full of people shouting racial slurs it doesn't really matter what their intent is. Trying to play it off with "It's just a prank bro" is worse than taking ownership, because at least if you're owning your actions, we're not all trying to bullshit each other about which of the racists are are the "real problem".
prepend 4y ago
I think it’s shown that they are not the same thing. But people think that edgelord larpers are actually edgelords. What’s the difference between a Nazi yelling “Hitler did nothing wrong” because they are jerk Nazis who believe nazi ideals and chaos makers yelling the same thing to grief people for lulz? Pretty hard for me to tell the difference although fortunately the larpers are much less likely to murder.
- fauxpause_ 4y ago
  The problem with nazis is not their proclivity to murder. It’s their radical upheaval of social norms to dangerous selfish ideals. And in that sense I don’t see much of a difference between the larpers.
  - prepend 4y ago
    I think the main problem with Nazis is the Holocaust. If Nazis hadn’t murdered 20M+ people, they would be way lower on my level of caring. The social norms changes were bad because they led to gas chambers, not because they just had dangerous selfish ideals. There’s lots of groups pushing dangerous selfish ideals (eg, Instagram influencers and culture of affluence worship) but Nazis are bad because of their history of kicking in my door and taking my family away to death camps.
    - fauxpause_ 4y ago
      The holocaust is a symptom of fascism that is enabled by nazis, as a second order effect of nazis. It’s very unwise to think that a given group is not threatening because they are authoritarian enjoyers but maybe not eager for genocide. The OG nazis were not either. But they gave way for an asshole who was and then let him do what he wanted. The recluses posting horrible shit seem like top candidates to join such a movement in OG Nazi Germany imo.

If 4chan has taught us anything, roleplaying as an edgelord and becoming an edgelord are the same thing.

by piyh 4y ago

If 4chan has taught us anything, roleplaying as an edgelord and becoming an edgelord are the same thing.

AustinDev 4y ago

How so?

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y ago
Not the person you replied to, but it sounds a lot like Poe’s Law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
piyh 4y ago
When you're in a room full of people shouting racial slurs it doesn't really matter what their intent is. Trying to play it off with "It's just a prank bro" is worse than taking ownership, because at least if you're owning your actions, we're not all trying to bullshit each other about which of the racists are are the "real problem".

prepend 4y ago

I think it’s shown that they are not the same thing. But people think that edgelord larpers are actually edgelords. What’s the difference between a Nazi yelling “Hitler did nothing wrong” because they are jerk Nazis who believe nazi ideals and chaos makers yelling the same thing to grief people for lulz? Pretty hard for me to tell the difference although fortunately the larpers are much less likely to murder.

fauxpause_ 4y ago
The problem with nazis is not their proclivity to murder. It’s their radical upheaval of social norms to dangerous selfish ideals. And in that sense I don’t see much of a difference between the larpers.
- prepend 4y ago
  I think the main problem with Nazis is the Holocaust. If Nazis hadn’t murdered 20M+ people, they would be way lower on my level of caring. The social norms changes were bad because they led to gas chambers, not because they just had dangerous selfish ideals. There’s lots of groups pushing dangerous selfish ideals (eg, Instagram influencers and culture of affluence worship) but Nazis are bad because of their history of kicking in my door and taking my family away to death camps.
  - fauxpause_ 4y ago
    The holocaust is a symptom of fascism that is enabled by nazis, as a second order effect of nazis. It’s very unwise to think that a given group is not threatening because they are authoritarian enjoyers but maybe not eager for genocide. The OG nazis were not either. But they gave way for an asshole who was and then let him do what he wanted. The recluses posting horrible shit seem like top candidates to join such a movement in OG Nazi Germany imo.