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What surprises me is that even within a single brand there are multiple standards. Right now I mostly have Bosch Professional 18v kit. If I want a small edging

by Lio 4y ago

What surprises me is that even within a single brand there are multiple standards. Right now I mostly have Bosch Professional 18v kit. If I want a small edging router I have to biy a while new Bosch Professional 12v kit… unless I go with the Bosch “amateur” system which is different again. I think there might also be another 10v Bosch Pro system as well. Why? It’s like an xkcd.

bombcar 4y ago
12v used to be darn weak, but it’s much stronger now - M12 chainsaws aren’t complete jokes, for example. Usually the 12v line is focused on compact and lighter duty, 18/20v on bigger demanding tools. At least Milwaukee chargers can charge both, mostly.
rodgerd 4y ago
> What surprises me is that even within a single brand there are multiple standards. It's kind of annoying, but less so if there's at least some logic to it. I can get pretty much everything I need as a shit-tier home handyman from Ryobi's 18V range, but if I were a more committed gardener or DIY I could imagine I'd want their 36V range as well. And then be irritated that the higher-power range only covers some tools. All that said it does seem like, I dunno, a relatively pointless complaint. Are there people who are that keen to mix and match their Bosch and Ryobi? It's all much of a muchness.
- Nullabillity 4y ago
  > Are there people who are that keen to mix and match their Bosch and Ryobi? Why wouldn't that be a perfectly reasonable thing to do? The default, in fact, unless artificial lock-in was created with bullshit like this.
notjulianjaynes 4y ago
There's really only a handful of battery voltages used across all manufacturers. It makes more sense if you think about the series count of a battery pack instead of the advertised voltage. A single lithium ion cell will have a nominal voltage of 3.6v and a "Max" voltage of 4.0v (technically 4.2v, but you can extend the battery life by not charging to 100% capacity). Thus a 10.8v (3 x 3.6v) and a 12v (3 x 4v) are the same thing, just measured differently. As is an 18v (5 x 3.6v) and a 20v "Max" (5 x 4v). 36v and 40v are both 10 cells in series. Etc.

by Lio 4y ago

bombcar 4y ago

12v used to be darn weak, but it’s much stronger now - M12 chainsaws aren’t complete jokes, for example. Usually the 12v line is focused on compact and lighter duty, 18/20v on bigger demanding tools. At least Milwaukee chargers can charge both, mostly.

rodgerd 4y ago

> What surprises me is that even within a single brand there are multiple standards. It's kind of annoying, but less so if there's at least some logic to it. I can get pretty much everything I need as a shit-tier home handyman from Ryobi's 18V range, but if I were a more committed gardener or DIY I could imagine I'd want their 36V range as well. And then be irritated that the higher-power range only covers some tools. All that said it does seem like, I dunno, a relatively pointless complaint. Are there people who are that keen to mix and match their Bosch and Ryobi? It's all much of a muchness.

Nullabillity 4y ago
> Are there people who are that keen to mix and match their Bosch and Ryobi? Why wouldn't that be a perfectly reasonable thing to do? The default, in fact, unless artificial lock-in was created with bullshit like this.

notjulianjaynes 4y ago

There's really only a handful of battery voltages used across all manufacturers. It makes more sense if you think about the series count of a battery pack instead of the advertised voltage. A single lithium ion cell will have a nominal voltage of 3.6v and a "Max" voltage of 4.0v (technically 4.2v, but you can extend the battery life by not charging to 100% capacity). Thus a 10.8v (3 x 3.6v) and a 12v (3 x 4v) are the same thing, just measured differently. As is an 18v (5 x 3.6v) and a 20v "Max" (5 x 4v). 36v and 40v are both 10 cells in series. Etc.