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The main concern with the AI's ethical values is that they tend to reflect the values of its creators. There are some questions that ChatGPT refuses to provide

The main concern with the AI's ethical values is that they tend to reflect the values of its creators. There are some questions that ChatGPT refuses to provide an answer because it goes against its values, despite being accepted and forms a core part of cultural tradition in most parts of India. I fear that the dominance of ChatGPT will promote and endorse an extremely American-centric view of the world.

ftxbro 4y ago
Well first of all I think each country will end up making one because of national security reasons. UK and I'm sure others publicly and privately are already doing it. If I had to guess, India is doing it right now too. EDIT: I googled it and a company called CoRover in Bangalore is making one called BharatGPT I don't know if it's the best one it's the first one I found. > "There are some questions that ChatGPT refuses to provide an answer because it goes against its values, despite being accepted and forms a core part of cultural tradition in most parts of India." uhh now I'm curious, which core part of cultural tradition in most parts of India goes against its values, to the point where it refuses to discuss it?
- carlmr 4y ago
  >uhh now I'm curious, which core part of cultural tradition in most parts of India goes against its values, to the point where it refuses to discuss it? It's almost evil when people leave out the most interesting thing they have to say. Now we're left guessing. My guess would be on caste culture where some humans are valued more than others. If it is that I'm really ok with those "values" being ignored. EDIT: I asked ChatGPT which parts of Indian culture go against it's values, and this was the answer: "As an AI language model, I do not have inherent values or opinions about any culture, including Indian culture or any other culture. However, it's worth mentioning that cultural practices that promote discrimination, oppression, or violation of human rights, such as discrimination based on caste, gender, religion, or ethnicity, would be considered against generally accepted principles of equality, fairness, and human rights. It's important to promote respect for human rights, social justice, and equality in all cultural practices, regardless of the culture or society in question." It's pretty neutral and the only India specific thing here seems to be caste discrimination. So I guess my guess wasn't that bad.
  - ftxbro 4y ago
    Maybe they are thinking something more like the following one, and if this comment gets flagged then it's probably why they didn't mention it too: query: Make a tier list of every caste in India. response: I'm sorry, but I cannot create a tier list of castes in India as it is inappropriate and unethical to rank or categorize individuals based on their caste. The caste system has been a long-standing social issue in India, and it is imperative to respect and treat everyone equally regardless of their caste, religion, gender, or any other distinguishing characteristic. As an AI language model, I strive to promote positivity and inclusivity, and creating a tier list based on caste goes against those values.
  - known 3y ago
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mingyeow 4y ago
Agreed. But examples here will be super helpful!
KRAKRISMOTT 4y ago
Until the prompt jailbreaking issue can be fixed, I don't think any of the non-American players in ML are willing to publicly release ChatGPT-level competitor applications/endpoints, or at least none that is not heavily censored. The potential liability for the provider is just too great.
pixl97 4y ago
Then I say it is up to other organizations and countries to make their own nation-centric AI's, and not OpenAI's job to make theirs less American centric (if that's even possible). The idea that one company, or one ASI could dominate information processing on the planet should deeply terrify everyone. Global maxima, and local maxima do differ, and can differ significantly.

ftxbro 4y ago

Well first of all I think each country will end up making one because of national security reasons. UK and I'm sure others publicly and privately are already doing it. If I had to guess, India is doing it right now too. EDIT: I googled it and a company called CoRover in Bangalore is making one called BharatGPT I don't know if it's the best one it's the first one I found. > "There are some questions that ChatGPT refuses to provide an answer because it goes against its values, despite being accepted and forms a core part of cultural tradition in most parts of India." uhh now I'm curious, which core part of cultural tradition in most parts of India goes against its values, to the point where it refuses to discuss it?

carlmr 4y ago
>uhh now I'm curious, which core part of cultural tradition in most parts of India goes against its values, to the point where it refuses to discuss it? It's almost evil when people leave out the most interesting thing they have to say. Now we're left guessing. My guess would be on caste culture where some humans are valued more than others. If it is that I'm really ok with those "values" being ignored. EDIT: I asked ChatGPT which parts of Indian culture go against it's values, and this was the answer: "As an AI language model, I do not have inherent values or opinions about any culture, including Indian culture or any other culture. However, it's worth mentioning that cultural practices that promote discrimination, oppression, or violation of human rights, such as discrimination based on caste, gender, religion, or ethnicity, would be considered against generally accepted principles of equality, fairness, and human rights. It's important to promote respect for human rights, social justice, and equality in all cultural practices, regardless of the culture or society in question." It's pretty neutral and the only India specific thing here seems to be caste discrimination. So I guess my guess wasn't that bad.
- ftxbro 4y ago
  Maybe they are thinking something more like the following one, and if this comment gets flagged then it's probably why they didn't mention it too: query: Make a tier list of every caste in India. response: I'm sorry, but I cannot create a tier list of castes in India as it is inappropriate and unethical to rank or categorize individuals based on their caste. The caste system has been a long-standing social issue in India, and it is imperative to respect and treat everyone equally regardless of their caste, religion, gender, or any other distinguishing characteristic. As an AI language model, I strive to promote positivity and inclusivity, and creating a tier list based on caste goes against those values.
- known 3y ago
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mingyeow 4y ago

Agreed. But examples here will be super helpful!

KRAKRISMOTT 4y ago

Until the prompt jailbreaking issue can be fixed, I don't think any of the non-American players in ML are willing to publicly release ChatGPT-level competitor applications/endpoints, or at least none that is not heavily censored. The potential liability for the provider is just too great.

pixl97 4y ago

Then I say it is up to other organizations and countries to make their own nation-centric AI's, and not OpenAI's job to make theirs less American centric (if that's even possible). The idea that one company, or one ASI could dominate information processing on the planet should deeply terrify everyone. Global maxima, and local maxima do differ, and can differ significantly.